I'm attempting a sort of pseudo caster unchained rogue, minor and major magic,eldritch heritage, UMD to the point That I'm guaranteed success even on scrolls, and whatever I can think of to get magic abilities without being a caster along with roguish stuff of course. Flipping around through books I found a feat called bookish rogue that allows me to change my spell like abilities to other spells of the same level by studying the spell in a spell book. Seeing this I was wondering if I could carry around a spell book with a few cantrips and first level spells in it to use, or were they intending for me to look at the party wizard's book?
EDIT: how would I get spells into the book? I guess that would be the big one. Also this is pfs.
I'll ad that in.
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For PFS, if you supply the gold, I don't see why another PC couldn't scribe spells they know into your book.
The only limitation might be the duration of the scenario. If you go from VC briefing to combat to finale, then the other PC probably wouldn't have time to waste their spell slot for the day just to scribe it into your book, but if the scenario has more than one day's duration it should be fine.
This doesn't fall into the normal limitation of "things that expire at the end of a scenario" because PCs are allowed to do it to their own spellbooks all the time.
For PFS, if you supply the gold, I don't see why another PC couldn't scribe spells they know into your book.
Bookish Rogue isn't very clear if you need to pass the normal Spellcraft checks to understand the magical writing (if you didn't scribe it yourself)... I would kind of assume so*, which is DC20+SpellLevel OR cast Read Magic (yourself, nobody can do that for you, though UMD'ing or otherwise using a scroll/wand of Read Magic is OK, and saves you a Cantrip/SLA slot). Once you pass that, you don't have to do it again for the same written copy of the spell.
You could try Scribing it yourself (Spellcraft DC15+SpellLevel) which would mean you don't have to use Spellcraft to read the spell, but in that case you would also need to pass the DC20+SpellLevel/Read Magic when you do the scribing in order to read the source you want to copy from (scroll, other caster's spellbook). You can use a scroll/wand (UMD) for that if you don't want to "waste" a Cantrip/SLA on Read Magic.
* ...On the other hand, Versatile Spontaneity doesn't seem to require Spellcraft checks, just "access to the spellbook/scroll", so why not let this work like that, too? You're not really a caster preparing spellslots, so why follow the rules for that?
Off the top of my head, you might check out Gnome & Elf and Half-Elf alt racial abilities and Feats...
They can give you more SLAs... And there's some alt race trait that lets you count as +1 level for activating magic items of one chosen class,
which lets you use their wands without any UMD check, which could be nice at low levels... (and that could allow Read Magic)
Interesting side note: A wizard attempting to use another wizard's spell book needs to make a Spellcraft check every time. (Which is why wizards write spells into their own books).
I like the idea of a rogue being able to "figure out" some magic from a spellbook though. Bookish Rogue makes the spellcasting an SU ability.
Spellbooks tend to be expensive though, and there are some pretty nifty security spells wizards keep to track them down if a thief steals one.
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Are Wizards allowed to keep swords?
No, if they even think of picking up something as base as a melee weapon, they fall, lose all class features, and turn into commoners.
EDIT- oh, when I say fall, I mean physically fall due to fatigue, and they lose their class features because they bump their heads on the way down/
Are Wizards allowed to keep swords?
Depends. Does it count as a Focus?
The one in my party does. He's all I'm a magus! And I'm all like Fancy fake name or not, you have a spell book and cast fireball! Wizard!
Are Wizards allowed to keep swords?No, if they even think of picking up something as base as a melee weapon, they fall, lose all class features, and turn into commoners.
EDIT- oh, when I say fall, I mean physically fall due to fatigue, and they lose their class features because they bump their heads on the way down/
It's more likely that they would fall because they dumped Strength so low that a melee weapon moves them to a heavy load.
Well I have classically schooled (or something, it makes spell craft a class skill and gives a plus one as well) and plan to be pretty good at spell craft if that helps any. Unchained rogue made minor and major magic much better in that I get unlimited uses of the cantrip and get more uses of the first level spell as I level. Was thinking detect magic for the cantrip since that gets much more useful with spell craft. So I would hope that would help with the issue of being able to understand magic jargon.
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Are Wizards allowed to keep swords?No, if they even think of picking up something as base as a melee weapon, they fall, lose all class features, and turn into commoners.
EDIT- oh, when I say fall, I mean physically fall due to fatigue, and they lose their class features because they bump their heads on the way down/
Which is all the best as the adequate commoner is soon out
Detect Magic has no bearing on understanding magic writing, other than seeing that it is magical.
That said, I (now) don't think you need to follow all the rules for reading/preparing from spellbooks,
i.e. wouldn't need Spellcraft/Read Magic in order to use a spellbook to swap your SLAs around,
as you aren't really a caster following spell preparation rules, you're a rule-breaking rogue fiddling with their SLAs.
Spellcraft is still nice to have for many other things (not all of which are described in the Skill itself).
BTW, if you get an Improved Familiar, many of them have SLAs, which effectively expand your repertoire.
One, Faery Dragon, even "casts as a Sorceror" (of fixed level), which gives it it's own spells known,
AND lets it use Sorceror wands/scrolls (though the latter may require Caster Level checks, and using your ranks in UMD may be better choice).
I believe there's also a Feat that lets you use a 1st level Domain Power once/day, if you're into that.
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Don't forget that a (perfect) dull grey Ioun stone (25 gp) has a resonant power, in PFS, of allowing the bearer to cast Read Magic (10 minutes duration) once per day.
Per Ioun stone?
Note that there has been a long debate on the PFS section of the boards on whether non-spellbook casters, like the Sorcerer, could actually scribe spells into a spellbook or not. Especially since. like that Bookish Rogue feat, there is at least one magic item for spontaneous casters that allows them to use a spellbook as a source for learning the spell/teaching the item the spell.