Iron body and Iron Golem with electrical attack....slow?


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

A creature with Iron Body on it gets shot by a lightning wand.

Iron Body states the creature affected is IMMUNE to ELECTRICITY, then says , "A magical attack that deals electricity damage slows an iron golem (as the slow spell) for 3 rounds, with no saving throw."

So, which one is it?

1) The electrical attack does not slow because the attack does not damage.

2) The wand does nothing because Iron Body says immune.

3) The creature is SLOWED.

See, the golem section states electrical damage must "an attack that DEALS...DAMAGED slows... But their is no damage in this instance.

1-2-3?

Does the Iron Body spell essentially turn you into a Iron Golem?

If so, that means the creature has the Iron Golem's ability of Immunity to Magic? Where electricity "slows?" But then Iron Body applies an immunity to electricity...

Mind Blown


3

Grand Lodge

Opuk0 wrote:
3

Maybe explain why you picked 3?

Should the text of Iron Golem be interpreted as "an electrical attack (remove the words deal damage)...

Text of Iron Body states that creature gets vulnerabilities of Iron Golem...

Definition of "vulnerabilities:"A creature with vulnerabilities takes half again as much damage (+50%) from a specific energy type, regardless of whether a saving throw is allowed or if the save is a success or failure. Creatures with a vulnerability that is not an energy type instead take a –4 penalty on saves against spells and effects that cause or use the listed vulnerability (such as spells with the light descriptor). Some creatures might suffer additional effects, as noted in their descriptions."


This is one of those cases where you have to sorta go with RAI instead of RAW

So yes, it seems very jarring that the spell says you get immunity to electricity, and then says you're vulnerable to whatever an iron golem is vulnerable too because that's the component you need for the spell

For reference, the Froghemoth is also immune to electricity, but is slowed when it's hit with an electricity spell, even if it wouldn't actually take damage from it.

So personally, I see the iron body thing as being similar, immune to electricity, but still have the slow weakness. If that doesn't click with you, then it's up to you to decide for yourself what you think the RAI was supposed to be.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber
nogoodscallywag wrote:
Opuk0 wrote:
3
Maybe explain why you picked 3?

Because Immunity to Magic states that spells fail to have an effect on the golem. It then goes on to say that certain spells used against it have different effects on an iron golem.

A spell that normally deals electricity damage instead deals no damage and slows the golem.


You are immune to the damage from electricity, but spells that do electrical damage slow you.

So you take no damage, but are slowed.


Samasboy1 wrote:

You are immune to the damage from electricity, but spells that do electrical damage slow you.

So you take no damage, but are slowed.

I agree with Samasboy1

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