Do PCs need underpants when wearing armor?


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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Is that a challenge?
I think it is, quickly we need to come up with ideas.

Oh oh!! I got one!

--> Do PCs need underpants when wearing armor?

so do they?, and if so how much do they cost? what are the penalties to not wearing underpants?

Do you get a bonus if you pants them?

also, will a paladin fall if they face an opponent without underwear?

do rogues gain sneak attacks against underwearless opponents.

WE NEED TO ANSWER THE REAL QUESTIONS!

[/joke]


Underpants?

As the magic item slot system indicates, they don't even need regular pants.


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Scythia wrote:

Underpants?

As the magic item slot system indicates, they don't even need regular pants.

every outfit is described as having something covering your midsection


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Nope. Clothes have weight. no way i'm putting anything on a 5 str kitsune i don't have to.


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Kitsune Kommando. ;)


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Nope. Clothes have weight. no way i'm putting anything on a 5 str kitsune i don't have to.

male or female, I need to know for science.[/joke]


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Underpants do not exist in the PF world, not even in Ultimate Equipment so the the possibility of armor induced chafing is definitely RAW


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Manwolf wrote:
Underpants do not exist in the PF world, not even in Ultimate Equipment so the the possibility of armor induced chafing is definitely RAW

*facepalm*


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Underpants do not exist in the PF world, not even in Ultimate Equipment so the the possibility of armor induced chafing is definitely RAW
*facepalm*

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your servers.


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There is some room for argument that wearing underwear at all with armor, particularly the heavier kinds, can be a large problem.

Simply put- armor can take a rather long time to take on and off. Time you might not be able to spend defenseless with your pants down.

Many armors are built so you don't have to take it off for...business. Since people are rarely are attacked directly from below, some armors do more of an armored kilt deal that can be moved aside as needed (and this might have been a main attraction of actual kilts on the battlefield as well)

Overall- underwear is more for sanitation than anything- it keeps outer wear cleaner. But since warriors that are too busy to deal with the call of nature...and then they get a sudden shock when smacked with a weapon... is a thing... sanitation is a lesser concern. You are fine as long as you do not have armor directly on bare flesh (which is both a comfort problem with metal scraping against sensitive areas and a protection problem, since padding is VERY effective at improving the effectiveness of armor)


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does attuning your underpants work with the same effectiveness as attuning to your clothing?


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Manwolf wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Underpants do not exist in the PF world, not even in Ultimate Equipment so the the possibility of armor induced chafing is definitely RAW
*facepalm*
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your servers.

Actually, underpants now do exist in Pathfinder.


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lemeres wrote:


Overall- underwear is more for sanitation than anything- it keeps outer wear cleaner. But since warriors that are too busy to deal with the call of nature...and then they get a sudden shock when smacked with a weapon... is a thing... sanitation is a lesser concern. You are fine as long as you do not have armor directly on bare flesh (which is both a comfort problem with metal scraping against sensitive areas and a protection problem, since padding is VERY effective at improving the effectiveness of armor)

wait... does this mean i should obtain battle diapers?


137ben wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Underpants do not exist in the PF world, not even in Ultimate Equipment so the the possibility of armor induced chafing is definitely RAW
*facepalm*
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your servers.
Actually, underpants now do exist in Pathfinder.

3P doesn't count, and they discuss kilts which I believe actually require a distinct lack of accompanying undergarments


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137ben wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Underpants do not exist in the PF world, not even in Ultimate Equipment so the the possibility of armor induced chafing is definitely RAW
*facepalm*
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your servers.
Actually, underpants now do exist in Pathfinder.

i knew that this thread would lead to something.


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Bandw2 wrote:
lemeres wrote:


Overall- underwear is more for sanitation than anything- it keeps outer wear cleaner. But since warriors that are too busy to deal with the call of nature...and then they get a sudden shock when smacked with a weapon... is a thing... sanitation is a lesser concern. You are fine as long as you do not have armor directly on bare flesh (which is both a comfort problem with metal scraping against sensitive areas and a protection problem, since padding is VERY effective at improving the effectiveness of armor)
wait... does this mean i should obtain battle diapers?

Well that DEPENDS

Oh yeah, I'm on a roll

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I dare you... I double dare anyone to go commando under chainmail.


Bandw2 wrote:
lemeres wrote:


Overall- underwear is more for sanitation than anything- it keeps outer wear cleaner. But since warriors that are too busy to deal with the call of nature...and then they get a sudden shock when smacked with a weapon... is a thing... sanitation is a lesser concern. You are fine as long as you do not have armor directly on bare flesh (which is both a comfort problem with metal scraping against sensitive areas and a protection problem, since padding is VERY effective at improving the effectiveness of armor)
wait... does this mean i should obtain battle diapers?

Only if you remember the battle baby wipes.

Anyway: Which way to the Baby war?


LazarX wrote:
I dare you... I double dare anyone to go commando under chainmail.

Ouch! That hurts just thinking about it. And if you're one of those hairy northern barbarian types... yowza!


Bandw2 wrote:

also, will a paladin fall if they face an opponent without underwear?

Two questions.

1. What if they're facing directly away from the opponent without underwear?

2. What if the opponent is a succubus?

And then KC was sent to the moon.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:

also, will a paladin fall if they face an opponent without underwear?

Two questions.

1. What if they're facing directly away from the opponent without underwear?

He becomes a Moon Knight.


Phase 1: Collection!
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

It would seem that phase 1 is now completed, with every piece of underpants collected. Commence phase 2!


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:

also, will a paladin fall if they face an opponent without underwear?

Two questions.

1. What if they're facing directly away from the opponent without underwear?

2. What if the opponent is a succubus?

And then KC was sent to the moon.

Well, succubi have fairly good natural armor (+7), so, since they lack things like scales or general mass, I must assume their flesh is just plain tough. Also, they have DR, so as long as the armor isn't cold iron... no, succubi have no problems wearing chainmail and nothing else.


Wait, if a paladin fails to change all the goblin babies' diapers expediently enough, does he fall?


Purple Duck made a third party supplement that introduces the legs equipment slot and various magic leg and crotch wear.


LazarX wrote:
I dare you... I double dare anyone to go commando under chainmail.

I actually put chainmail on while wearing a t-shirt once.

You guys have absolutely no idea how painful it ended up being...


http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0025.html

Also, do male characters who aren't wearing underpants have to make an acrobatics check to run?


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That depends on the size of their Charisma.


More seriously, I tend to assume that part of the weight/encumbrance of armor is the padding and such needed to actually wear it comfortably.


Bandw2 wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Is that a challenge?
I think it is, quickly we need to come up with ideas.

Oh oh!! I got one!

--> Do PCs need underpants when wearing armor?

so do they?, and if so how much do they cost? what are the penalties to not wearing underpants?

Do you get a bonus if you pants them?

also, will a paladin fall if they face an opponent without underwear?

do rogues gain sneak attacks against underwearless opponents.

WE NEED TO ANSWER THE REAL QUESTIONS!

[/joke]

Unfortunately there are no underpants in Golarion, because Gnomes.

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thorin001 wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Is that a challenge?
I think it is, quickly we need to come up with ideas.

Oh oh!! I got one!

--> Do PCs need underpants when wearing armor?

so do they?, and if so how much do they cost? what are the penalties to not wearing underpants?

Do you get a bonus if you pants them?

also, will a paladin fall if they face an opponent without underwear?

do rogues gain sneak attacks against underwearless opponents.

WE NEED TO ANSWER THE REAL QUESTIONS!

[/joke]

Unfortunately there are no underpants in Golarion, because Gnomes.

Step 1: Steal Underwear!

Step 2: ...
Step 3: Profit!


Underpants are not needed, in or out of play, they are part of a greater conspiracy, that i cannot risk telling you goes about.


Yes.


LazarX wrote:
I dare you... I double dare anyone to go commando under chainmail.

*Googles 'chain mail bikini'*


And to answer the OP question with a question:

Does a plated suspensorium with a soft padding counts as underpants?


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MrCharisma wrote:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0025.html

Also, do male characters who aren't wearing underpants have to make an acrobatics check to run?

They might get bonus to Acrobatics check to avoid attacks of opportunity.

Silver Crusade

A far more terrifying implication of this thread.

Do PCs need underpants?

We have not addressed the requirements for NPCs and monsters!

Boxers or briefs for the up and coming hobgoblin?

Teddies for the medusa?

Garters for the hag?


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This is an important issue.

The kobold PC in our current campaign is a strange fellow with a particular interest in why it is that people bother wearing underpants. He thinks they're derivative. He's not much of a fan of regular pants either.


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Pipefox wrote:

This is an important issue.

The kobold PC in our current campaign is a strange fellow with a particular interest in why it is that people bother wearing underpants. He thinks they're derivative. He's not much of a fan of regular pants either.

I suppose the matter is different when you have scales and an innie.

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Manwolf wrote:
3P doesn't count, and they discuss kilts which I believe actually require a distinct lack of accompanying undergarments

You've bought into the cultural imperialism of the anti-kilt lowlanders. There's no reason why a kilt-clad hero can't wear any undies he prefers.


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Pipefox wrote:

This is an important issue.

The kobold PC in our current campaign is a strange fellow with a particular interest in why it is that people bother wearing underpants. He thinks they're derivative. He's not much of a fan of regular pants either.

with a tail coming out of your back almost as thick as your torso, pants might be difficult.


Just as pertinent a question:

Does Plate Mail have a butt flap?


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Cthulhudrew wrote:

Just as pertinent a question:

Does Plate Mail have a butt flap?

plate mail usually just has a metal skirt, so there's nothing between your butt and the ground if you're not wearing underwear. WHICH IS WHY I ASK IF IT'S REQUIRED?

Grand Lodge

Underwear and armor.

Most armors don't have quick "fail safes" against "urgent matters", so if you are using an armor when you hear the call of nature, you must use the undone hastly rules.

But, swimming against the current, many undergarments have "fail safes" to "urgent matters". So, if you hear the call of nature, you can just unbottom your pants.

Of course, in raw, Pathfinder characters don't need to answer the call of nature, maybe they aren't even equipped with the necessary tools to do the job, so, no problem there.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Pipefox wrote:

This is an important issue.

The kobold PC in our current campaign is a strange fellow with a particular interest in why it is that people bother wearing underpants. He thinks they're derivative. He's not much of a fan of regular pants either.

I suppose the matter is different when you have scales and an innie.

And a cloaca.

Seriously, I can't tell if they are male or female, even without pants.


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lemeres wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Pipefox wrote:

This is an important issue.

The kobold PC in our current campaign is a strange fellow with a particular interest in why it is that people bother wearing underpants. He thinks they're derivative. He's not much of a fan of regular pants either.

I suppose the matter is different when you have scales and an innie.

And a cloaca.

Seriously, I can't tell if they are male or female, even without pants.

wait kobold eggs aren't mined out of the earth?


For what it's worth, Kitiara uth Matar claimed (or bragged?) to Dalamar the dark that she wore nothing under her armor.


TarSpartan wrote:
For what it's worth, Kitiara uth Matar claimed (or bragged?) to Dalamar the dark that she wore nothing under her armor.

Not really a problem if she considered thick padding a part of armor.

Anyway, Kit wasn't exactly known for her honesty and reliable truthfulness...

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Bandw2 wrote:
wait... does this mean i should obtain battle diapers?

They give +2 on saves vs fear and +2 to DC of intimidate


lemeres wrote:


And a cloaca.

I was not reffering to the belly button... :)

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