Attacking While Buried? And Eldritch Heritage for bloodrager bloodlines?


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Hi there, I am currently playing a crossblooded bloodrager in my game right now and my bloodlines are Black Blood & Aberrant. So I now have a 15 foot reach at level 8 and combat reflexes so I have been having lots of fun, but I also found a way to get a burrow speed which made me wonder...

If I have a 15ft reach and I burrow down 5-10ft my arms are still at a 10-15ft reach above ground, if I wanted. So could I still attack if I buried myself? I know that miss chance and everything like that apples, I am just wondering if it is even possible to attack something when your like that?

My second question is, can you use the Eldritch heritage feats to select bloodrager bloodlines instead of sorcerer ones? The feat says sorcerer bloodlines so I amused no, but that feat was made long before bloodrager came out and bloodragers bloodlines are described to be very close to that of sorcerer bloodlines. So have they just not updated the feat or is it only for sorcerer bloodlines?


Grimboldorf wrote:
My second question is, can you use the Eldritch heritage feats to select bloodrager bloodlines instead of sorcerer ones? The feat says sorcerer bloodlines so I amused no, but that feat was made long before bloodrager came out and bloodragers bloodlines are described to be very close to that of sorcerer bloodlines. So have they just not updated the feat or is it only for sorcerer bloodlines?

No, without a GM house ruling, only sorcerous bloodlines may be chosen with Eldritch Heritage. Though there is the Raging Blood feat that lets you choose a first level Bloodrager bloodline power and get a mini Bloodrage. Without Raging Blood getting a Bloodrager Bloodlines would be useless for pretty much anyone except Bloodragers and Eldritch Scion Magi. Their abilities only kick in during a Bloodrage unless specifically noted on that power, such as Fey's level 16, One With Nature.


There is a feat that gives Bloodrager Bloodlines, but it requires Eldritch Heritage.


And yeah, you can attack from underground like that, with miss chance for full concealment - you would have to guess/sense what square they are in somehow (Perception check with heavy penalties would let you localize squares I guess), and notably you shouldn't be able to take AoOs for that same reason.


Suma3da wrote:
Grimboldorf wrote:
My second question is, can you use the Eldritch heritage feats to select bloodrager bloodlines instead of sorcerer ones? The feat says sorcerer bloodlines so I amused no, but that feat was made long before bloodrager came out and bloodragers bloodlines are described to be very close to that of sorcerer bloodlines. So have they just not updated the feat or is it only for sorcerer bloodlines?
No, without a GM house ruling, only sorcerous bloodlines may be chosen with Eldritch Heritage. Though there is the Raging Blood feat that lets you choose a first level Bloodrager bloodline power and get a mini Bloodrage. Without Raging Blood getting a Bloodrager Bloodlines would be useless for pretty much anyone except Bloodragers and Eldritch Scion Magi. Their abilities only kick in during a Bloodrage unless specifically noted on that power, such as Fey's level 16, One With Nature.

yeah, you could avoid penalties as well if using tremorsense or if you use arcane eye prior to burrowing.


Grimboldorf wrote:

Hi there, I am currently playing a crossblooded bloodrager in my game right now and my bloodlines are Black Blood & Aberrant. So I now have a 15 foot reach at level 8 and combat reflexes so I have been having lots of fun, but I also found a way to get a burrow speed which made me wonder...

If I have a 15ft reach and I burrow down 5-10ft my arms are still at a 10-15ft reach above ground, if I wanted. So could I still attack if I buried myself? I know that miss chance and everything like that apples, I am just wondering if it is even possible to attack something when your like that?

My second question is, can you use the Eldritch heritage feats to select bloodrager bloodlines instead of sorcerer ones? The feat says sorcerer bloodlines so I amused no, but that feat was made long before bloodrager came out and bloodragers bloodlines are described to be very close to that of sorcerer bloodlines. So have they just not updated the feat or is it only for sorcerer bloodlines?

yeah, you could avoid penalties as well if using tremorsense or if you use arcane eye prior to burrowing.

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