Monsters as PCs - Aging Effects?


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As far as I can find there is no aging rules for anything outside of the core, featured, and uncommon races. So, how should monsters be taken into account.

For example... a hag. Are they immortal? Human aging? Elf aging? Changeling aging (since in PF they pretty much are changelings 'grown up')?

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Thoughts? Anyone?


Unfortunately, the only answer is GM decides.


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Yeah, the GM has to invent fitting age categories himself.

I would orient myself on the most appropriately fitting race's known age categorie.


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I declare anything with regeneration to be immortal, likewise for most Fey and Outsiders.

Plants I assume live hundreds of years (similar to Elves).

Giants, it varies, I basically go by amount of magic to determine max age. The more magic, the longer they live. Hill giants I assume same as human, and go from there.

Higher hit dice I would think live longer, generally... Elephants and whales, for example...

No rules for it, but not hard to decide on numbers if you sit down and think about it.

Dragons have rules, so at least that one is done. :D

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Zelda Marie Lupescu wrote:
Thoughts? Anyone?

Outside of a Kingmaker AP, very few, if any campaigns run long enough for it to make a difference, especially if your monster's long-lived.

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LazarX wrote:
Zelda Marie Lupescu wrote:
Thoughts? Anyone?
Outside of a Kingmaker AP, very few, if any campaigns run long enough for it to make a difference, especially if your monster's long-lived.

Maybe for you, but many players have long lasting games that are not Kingmaker... or else there would be no need for aging rules for the core races even.

Grand Lodge

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Zelda Marie Lupescu wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Zelda Marie Lupescu wrote:
Thoughts? Anyone?
Outside of a Kingmaker AP, very few, if any campaigns run long enough for it to make a difference, especially if your monster's long-lived.
Maybe for you, but many players have long lasting games that are not Kingmaker... or else there would be no need for aging rules for the core races even.

But given that outside of human, every race is long-lived, again that's not an issue unless you're talking a really long period of time.

Grand Lodge

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Zelda Marie Lupescu wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Zelda Marie Lupescu wrote:
Thoughts? Anyone?
Outside of a Kingmaker AP, very few, if any campaigns run long enough for it to make a difference, especially if your monster's long-lived.
Maybe for you, but many players have long lasting games that are not Kingmaker... or else there would be no need for aging rules for the core races even.

There usually isn't even then...the lifespans of the players are a limiting factor. :)


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LazarX wrote:
There usually isn't even then...the lifespans of the players are a limiting factor. :)

Luckily, there are plenty of ways for people to become immortal in pathfinder. Some obviously more morally dubious then others certainly. But it would be rare for you to run out of options.

However when playing as monsters, it can be incredibly hard. I've played a skulk before in a kingmaker campaign. He eventually had to become a half-babu in order to keep him alive.

To get back to one of the earliest questions; Hags are immortal as far as they've been shown to be in adventures so far. There have been hags of hundreds of years of age without any age category modification.

Sadly no collected source for this. It's mostly scrounging for assumptions.


Diekssus wrote:


To get back to one of the earliest questions; Hags are immortal as far as they've been shown to be in adventures so far. There have been hags of hundreds of years of age without any age category modification.

Sadly no collected source for this. It's mostly scrounging for assumptions.

Hmm, yeah true that does sort of make sense even beyond adventures.. they are kind of perpetually just old and ugly but not really hindered by it...

So then that adds another question though, what happens to an immortal being when they are advanced an age category with the benefits but not the penalties... do they still get the obvious BONUS POWER, or are they immune to what is entirely a good thing for them?

For example, worshipping Mestama with the Demonic Obedience feat gets you the following at level 16

Book of the Damned Vol 2: Lords of Chaos wrote:

Mestama

Elder's Grace (Ex) You immediately age into the next age category, taking all of the appropriate bonuses to mental ability scores without any of the penalties to physical ability scores. If you are venerable when you achieve the boon, you die and become a ghost. Any illusion effect you create gains a +2 profane bonus to the save DC.

Also, at this point I know this is just fun brainstorming :)


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The specific age doesn't matter a whole lot until you are rolling to see when you die.

Just pick an age category and say your monster character is in that age group.

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