Full attack with Natural Attacks and Weapons super obscure rule question. (Answered)

[Alexander Nudd]

So I was researching something related to this topic when I stumbled across a rule that doesn't seem to be followed in the bestiary or anywhere else I am aware of. I didn't know it existed, and neither has anyone else I ran it by. I was wondering if I was interpreting this correctly.

The CRB states on page 182 "You can make attacks with natural weapons in
combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and
unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for
each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw attack
and also use that hand to make attacks with a longsword.
When you make additional attacks in this way, all of your
natural attacks are treated as secondary natural attacks,
using your base attack bonus minus 5 and adding only 1/2
of your Strength modifier on damage rolls. In addition,
all of your attacks made with melee weapons and unarmed
strikes are made as if you were two-weapon fighting. Your
natural attacks are treated as light, off-hand weapons for
determining the penalty to your other attacks.

Does this imply that if I make attacks with a weapon and my natural attacks that the weapon takes penalties for fighting with two weapons? Therefore if I don't have TWF, that is a -4 penalty on my main hand weapon? If my only manufactured weapon is a two-handed weapon, can I even do this? If so, I take it I take just the -4 on the attacks with that weapon and the appropriate modifiers on my natural attacks for them being secondary?

If I am reading this correctly, why do creautres in the bestiary not take these negatives in their stat block? See Babau for example. His attacks are listed as longspear +12/+7 and Bite +7 (Simply taking the -5 for the bite being a secondary natural attack as part of a full attack as normal. Not factoring in this apparent two weapon fighting penalty to his spear.)

[Alexander Nudd]

Alright, the bestiary contradicts the core rulebook as pointed out by a friend. On Page 302 it states "Creatures with natural attacks and attacks made with weapons can use both as part of a full attack action
(although often a creature must forgo one natural
attack for each weapon clutched in that limb, be it a
claw, tentacle, or slam). Such creatures attack with their
weapons normally but treat all of their natural attacks
as secondary attacks during that attack, regardless of the
attack’s original type."

So apparently the CRB is just wrong presumably and this is correct. If this hasn't been addressed yet, can we get that paragraph changed in further printings?

[blackbloodtroll]

Do you have an older printing?

My CRB says:

CRB wrote:

You can make attacks with natural weapons in

combination with attacks made with a melee weapon
and unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used
for each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw
attack and also use that hand to make attacks with a
longsword. When you make additional attacks in this
way, all of your natural attacks are treated as secondary
natural attacks, using your base attack bonus minus
5 and adding only 1/2 of your Strength modifier on
damage rolls. Feats such as Two-Weapon Fighting and
Multiattack (see the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary) can reduce
these penalties.

[Alexander Nudd]

Looks like they fixed the issue already, as I suspected above. Cool beans. Thanks for the confirmation balckbloodtroll.

[blackbloodtroll]

If you have the PDF, you can download the latest printing.

You can also download errata here.