Legless movements


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


So, I'm playing in a game next week and we can only pick from the core races. However I've played with the GM before, and in our old game we had a very ineffective merfolk bard. This game he jokingly said I could play another race if it was a merfolk. I decided to take him up on the offer, for simple entertainment and to break the human meta-fest.

Anyway, I'm running a merfolk cavalier, order of Cockatrice. I took strong tail which gives me a 15f movement speed. Now, I'm wondering what affect does armor have on this? It already seems slow enough, but my GM is pushing for a reduction to 10f. Is that right RAW or what?

Also if I took a level of barb for fast movement, would it be reduced by the armor or does it just stack onto the movement I already have?


This formula:

x - ((x/15)*5)

Where x is your speed, will with absolute certainty, reveal your Movement Speed due to Encumbrance/Armor. Note, if x/15 results in a decimal, truncate it.

In this case, x=15. This results in 10.

Additionally, Armor and Encumbrance for other base speeds proves both your DM, and the formula, correct.


Fast Movement wrote:
A barbarian's land speed is faster than the norm for her race by +10 feet. This benefit applies only when he is wearing no armor, light armor, or medium armor, and not carrying a heavy load. Apply this bonus before modifying the barbarian's speed because of any load carried or armor worn. This bonus stacks with any other bonuses to the barbarian's land speed.

So your merfolk would go up to a 25 ft base move speed. Medium Armor drops this to 20 ft as per the table Legowaffles posted, which would be the same speed a 30ft movement speed character gets while wearing medium armor (not bad for a fish out of water).


I doubt your movement speed will matter much, though, when you take Narrow Frame for your mount ASAP and never get off your horse (or whatever it is).


. . . Did not notice the line about Barbarian movement speed. Oops.

OT EDIT: How long after you post can you edit the post?


Okay, thank you for the quick reply! I was mostly concerned because he was leaning towards it only giving me 15f, and if that was the case there was little reason to take a level of barb.

I'll defiantly look into the narrow frame/mount indoors stuff. He's a beast rider so I can get a better mount for indoors activities in a couple of levels.


Legowaffles wrote:

. . . Did not notice the line about Barbarian movement speed. Oops.

OT EDIT: How long after you post can you edit the post?

Editing is locked after an hour, I believe, but I feel it is generally good etiquette to stop editing after the next person posts.


lemeres wrote:
Legowaffles wrote:

. . . Did not notice the line about Barbarian movement speed. Oops.

OT EDIT: How long after you post can you edit the post?

Editing is locked after an hour, I believe, but I feel it is generally good etiquette to stop editing after the next person posts.

Generally agreed, I would however, prefer to breach etiquette and not spread misinformation than leave it there.

Thank you for the info.


Legowaffles wrote:
lemeres wrote:
Legowaffles wrote:

. . . Did not notice the line about Barbarian movement speed. Oops.

OT EDIT: How long after you post can you edit the post?

Editing is locked after an hour, I believe, but I feel it is generally good etiquette to stop editing after the next person posts.

Generally agreed, I would however, prefer to breach etiquette and not spread misinformation than leave it there.

Thank you for the info.

It's not really a breach of anything if you make it clear that you edited and indicate how. Slap a big old EDIT: on the end of your post, and people usually won't care.


Generally, I find that putting an EDIT label like you previously used is probably a good way of dealing with it, since it indicates that such a change has happened.

Because when you have such misinformation, one of the obvious things that will happen is that someone will correct you. If you correct it, and someone else had already made a comment correcting you, that leads to a bit of confusion for others who can no longer find that error in your comment. That either makes the reader believe that the person correcting you misread, or they realize you edited and may believe that you tried to cover your faults.

So just being up front with a clear label clarifies the situation.


Fortunately, I do tend to make a note on a post when I edit it, and why.

Grand Lodge

Potions of Sky Swim would be highly effective.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Potions of Sky Swim would be highly effective.

My GM runs a pretty harsh, low gold game. So it'll pretty hard to acquire them. I think we only have a words of power sorcerer in terms of magic as well.


I was about to suggest a FLoating Disk spell :P

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