Portable Altar in Wrath Manual (pg24)


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Since I'm not a subscriber and I didn't pre-order from a vendor who ignores street dates I've been reading the Rulebook to partially get my Wrath fix.

On pg. 24 the card Portable Alter says "Display this card. While displayed, add 1 to your divine checks. You may discard this card to add 1d6 to your Divine checks, or to recharge a Basic blessing instead of discarding it. At the end of the turn, discard this card."

Is that plural 1d6/Divine checks a misprint, or am I just not seeing the nuance of this card.

Why wouldn't you just immediately discard/recharge to activate the 1d6 bump over the +1?


That is what the printed card says too. Given the general avoidance of having you remember things long term, I'm going to guess it should say "add 1d6 to your Divine check".

After all, without some guidance on how long that would last, it would seem to be for the rest of the game.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

The first is correctly plural, as it affects all of your checks while displayed. The second should be singular, as it affects only the check in which you discarded it.


Vic Wertz wrote:
The first is correctly plural, as it affects all of your checks while displayed. The second should be singular, as it affects only the check in which you discarded it.

This is exactly what I figured. Thanks!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Added to FAQ.


Another question about the Portable Alter. If you discard it for the d6, do you still get the +1 for that check or just the d6?

Also, if you do not have it displayed and you suddenly have to make a divine check, I would assume you can display it because it effects that check.

I also assume if you have it displayed you can discard it for the d6 because it effects the check.

I also assume that you can display it and immediately discard it because it effects the check, or would that count as playing two items on a check? Does discarding it count as playing an item?

If you play it and immediately discard it for a check? Does that make playing it retroactively illegal because now the +1 went away so it wasn't directly effecting the check?

Obviously if you play it is response to a check it counts as playing an item, but it does not if it is already out, correct?

Are my assumptions correct?


quicksilver89 wrote:
Another question about the Portable Alter.
quicksilver89 wrote:
If you discard it for the d6, do you still get the +1 for that check or just the d6?

I would say you don't get the +1 on the same check you discard it.

quicksilver89 wrote:
Also, if you do not have it displayed and you suddenly have to make a divine check, I would assume you can display it because it effects that check.

Sounds fine.

quicksilver89 wrote:
I also assume if you have it displayed you can discard it for the d6 because it effects the check.

Yes.

quicksilver89 wrote:
I also assume that you can display it and immediately discard it because it effects the check, or would that count as playing two items on a check? Does discarding it count as playing an item?

I'd say you can do that.

quicksilver89 wrote:
If you play it and immediately discard it for a check? Does that make playing it retroactively illegal because now the +1 went away so it wasn't directly effecting the check?

Nah, it is fine.

quicksilver89 wrote:
Obviously if you play it is response to a check it counts as playing an item, but it does not if it is already out, correct?

If it is already out, I works say gaining the +1 doesn't count as playing an item. But discarding it does.

quicksilver89 wrote:
Are my assumptions correct?

Mostly. So, on one check you can display it, display it or immediately discard it. The act of displaying it counts as playing it. And discarding it counts as playing it. Doing both on one check is fine because it is, itself, only one item.

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