Touch spells, exactly what has to touch you? *wink wink*


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As inappropriate as it may sound what exactly can I touch people with while using say shocking grasp? I'm wanting to have a rogue who uses the some sorta weapon as well as use the improvised defense trait and have a combat scabbard in the other hand, I want to use the major magic talent to cast shocking grasp and since it is a spell like ability it had no components, no somatic no verbal or material, so casting it with my hands full is no problem, but while I can cast it sure, would I be able to deliver it?

Scarab Sages

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This thread is entirely less interesting than I was led to believe.


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Fine I cast shocking genitalia. Better?


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Your GM mileage may vary I would allow you to use it with a leg.


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Technically, it would discharge into your weapon. It is only the Spellstrike Magus ability that lets you hold a charge with your hand full.

But, I do not think many GMs would really run it that way. I certainly wouldn't.


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If you're holding the weapon already when you cast it, it doesn't discharge, but drawing the weapon or picking it up off the ground will discharge it onto the weapon, possibly damaging it.

You can't deliver the spell through the weapon unless you have spellstrike, possibly through the Magus VMC in Unchained. You can deliver it by making a touch attack, for which the Combat chapter of the CRB does not list a requirement that your hand be unoccupied. You would appear to be able to touch your opponent with a finger while holding the scabbard and deliver the spell, which would be considered an armed attack and would not provoke an attack of opportunity. Alternatively you could use an unarmed strike or a natural weapon if you have one. Using an unarmed strike in this way would provoke unless you have Improved Unarmed Strike.


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I would let you use whatever part of your body you wanted. You could cast shocking grasp and then give someone a truly electrifying kiss for example.

Without special rules though, extending that touch spell to a non-wand object is just not going to fly.


I've also roleplayed delivering touch spells with, say, a kiss. In one case a character revived her SO with a kiss that delivered a cure light wounds spell.

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Superman used a kiss to deliver a Modify Memory spell once.


Imbicatus wrote:
Superman used a kiss to deliver a Modify Memory spell once.

That part comes out of nowhere lol. Like since when could he do that and how did he figure out that he could?

Scarab Sages

noble peasant wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Superman used a kiss to deliver a Modify Memory spell once.
That part comes out of nowhere lol. Like since when could he do that and how did he figure out that he could?

It's still not the stupidest thing in that movie... Do you remember the giant cellophane S logo he rips off his chest?

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