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Shadow Kosh wrote:
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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Well let's be honest, Maggie's had a rough time of it being a lesbian. So for her to do that, is not unexpected.
Most lesbians and queer women have a rough time of it at some point. Not really an excuse to be that manipulative.
Let's be honest, too...Maggie attempting to manipulate Alex isn't exactly out of character. She's done it several times in the past. For as much as a certain segment of the fanbase railed against Mon-El and declared his and Kara's relationship to be toxic, they always seemed to ignore the fact that Maggie seems to default to lying and manipulating Alex whenever it suits her.

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I'm with Rysky. Give us an example!

But yeah still thumbs downing the end of Sanvers even if it was done out of context...

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Yeah I didn't really see that. Extremely guarded and expecting things to go bad due to a lifetime of being let down by people yes, but not manipulative.

It sucks....however....if this creates an opening for a certain Kate Kane to show up, I won't complain.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'm with Rysky. Give us an example!

Off the top of my head...Maggie lies about how her parents reacted to her coming out of the closet, and she also lies about why she and her ex broke up. Honestly, when her middle of the night phone call to her father that she hadn't talked to in 15 years was so oddly casual, I thought it would be another instance of her lying/manipulating Alex.


Her description of Alex's desire to have children as some "vague notion" is also an abusive behavior: minimizing a partner's needs or desires as wishes or fantasies, rather than an integral part of their psyche.


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Yeah I didn't really see that. Extremely guarded and expecting things to go bad due to a lifetime of being let down by people yes, but not manipulative.

It sucks....however....if this creates an opening for a certain Kate Kane to show up, I won't complain.

Kate showing up would be great.

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Shadow Kosh wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'm with Rysky. Give us an example!
Off the top of my head...Maggie lies about how her parents reacted to her coming out of the closet, and she also lies about why she and her ex broke up. Honestly, when her middle of the night phone call to her father that she hadn't talked to in 15 years was so oddly casual, I thought it would be another instance of her lying/manipulating Alex.

Uh, what? Lying that everything went okay when she came out to her family in order to give her girlfriend courage to come out to her family is not being manipulative.

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Lying is not being manipulative?

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Not always, we're not talking Paladin here. Or should she completely have shattered any confidence she built up. "Yeah, my family completely abandoned me for being gay so, you're probably going to lose your mom and sister too, but go for it honey."

People in really life, who aren't a$$holes, and care about other people's feelings understand that saying the absolute truth can sometimes be more hurtful or damaging than a falsehood.

If anyone's ever told you "You can do it." "You got this.", "I'm sure you can handle it".....they're probably lying for you're own good. We do this for people we love sometimes because hearing and believing it can make it true, when it isn't.


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Good people can lie, especially if it's done for the right reasons.

Anyways, so maybe Kate Kane, maybe Rene Montoya?

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I was thinking Montoya, but I think Alex is burned for cops for a bit. Although if they make her a P.I. and go The Question route...


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I'll tell you guys what I have learned about people. The vast vast majority all have something bad to go along with the good. No one is perfect.

That said she was totally low key manipulative at times. maybe not maliciously.


All I know is we'll see Alex try to find her groove again and maybe that will help Kara too. Maybe.


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A now single Alex should make the upcoming Crossover a lot more interesting if she gets to interact with White Canary...


MMC,

Yeah but honestly not sure White Canary right for her....


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I don't think were talking long term if White Canary is involved Thomas.


Vid,

Maybe not but not sure short term is much better.

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White Canary would be at most a fun, wild confidence booster. And Alex can definitely hold her own alongside pretty much all of team Arrow.


Mark,

Yeah I'm not say she couldn't, especially since she tends to punch WELL above her weight class. But I just think she should find someone that's more suited to her lifestyle. But that's just me.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Good people can lie, especially if it's done for the right reasons.

Anyways, so maybe Kate Kane, maybe Rene Montoya?

Isn't that who see was just engaged too? ;)

I mean, will they cast a blonde Montoya to counter the latina Sawyer? I suspect the only reason they left the name Maggie was because they had access to Superman characters and not Batman.


Greenie,

Not sure that's entirely true since I think they can reference some Batman villains/peoples. Just not all of them.


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The actress who played young Kara really had Melissa's physical mannerisms nailed. Kudos.

Reference to

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Smallville/Chloe who's good-with computers/Wall of Weird
was a stupid choice. Any number of things place the two shows in separate realities.


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Damon,

The fact that I'm pretty sure we're watching Earth-31 and Smallville was probably Earth-49?


That was one of the best episodes since season 1. Looking forward to the Legion of Super Heroes.


Wait the Legion is coming next episode?!

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Holy cow yes


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Damon,

The fact that I'm pretty sure we're watching Earth-31 and Smallville was probably Earth-49?

Not sure I follow. Sure, Smallville can exist in the CW multiverse. My point was that Kara making fairly pointed references to the Smallville universe was a stupid choice, due to Smallville's very different interpretations of Kara, Jimmy Olsen, Green Arrow...

Chloe and the Wall of Weird are only known to have existed in the Small'verse, so this felt like the writers trying to link the two shows in some way rather than retconning an Earth-31 Chloe into existence.

Incidentally, why Earth-49, particularly?


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Wait the Legion is coming next episode?!

I think it's just Mon-El next episode, with the Legion to follow later (in Episode 10).


Damon,

It was just a random number I came up with. That and I can't always remember the DC Multiverse as well as I can Marvel's.

As for Chloe being 'retcon' it's not necessarily that since she DID show up in comics....once.

Ah. I was just curious...Also I thought Episode 10 was the cross-over episode...


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Lois' cousin Chloe was added to the comics, so she could exist in other universes.

I finally put my finger on Superman in this universe. Ever watch the George Reeves series? Or really almost every TV superhero until recently. The title character is the only superhero in the world, and there are almost no supervillains. He/she fights one off bank robbers and mobsters.

Because this is Earth-Supergirl, and all the traditional Superman villains, except Lex and Reactron appeared first in National City recently, that is what his life has been like for the last couple decades.

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Except they've hinted that not only does Batman exist but that Clark has worked with him in the past.


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Another Easter egg no one has commented on. Before the Danvers adopted her, Kara Zor-el went by Linda Lee.

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