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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Phantom,

My best guess? He some how drugged her. That's the best I can come up with.

But even so this episode proved what you said earlier, Mon-el is pretty much dead weight.

I still don't know WHY he's there other than to be a romantic lead stuff.

Hell even if you discount Maggie as a sideplot, at least she and Alex HAVE chemistry! Or hell something akin to it. I find them WAY more believable as a couple than say, Winn and his alien GF (who I do like but I think is clearly not good for him), and ESPECIALLY...this shipping.

I'm honestly not a fan of ANY of the 'relationships' on this show and they spend WAY too much time focusing on them. Winn's is probably the least believable... but Mon-el and Miss Martian seem to have only been introduced because they're the same species as the main characters... Other than that... no point to them at all.

Frankly, I didn't like this season much at all... which REALLY surprised me because I thought the first season was my favorite DC show last year. Supergirl was happy and optimistic and full of hope. Her main goal was simply helping people... The costume and powers were spot on...

Now? I used to enjoy using my own comic/Roleplaying knowledge to really get into the plot. Big fight starts and I can predict what powers would be used for what situation... Use heat vision on the gas tanks... Speed tornado for the gas... Freeze Breath... whatever. And I came pretty close.

Now?? It's like playing in a game with jerk DM who's railroading a game. Sister is kidnapped... use your senses.. nope that didn't work. Use your telepathy, nope it's blocked... shapeshift to dad... nope, he saw through it. Hack the security... nope he thought of that too. Well, all the DEO agents are tagged with a tracker... Nope, that's not working.

Does the bad guy have these kind of resources? Is he alien based or have luthor tech?? No... Shut up... play his game, his way, or else!!

It's just... bad storytelling. Did they ever figure out HOW he was blocking the telepathy to prevent it from happening again? Way too many important plot points handwaved away.

Worse yet, they're even draining away the optimistic happy attitude that Kara had and replacing it with bitterness and whining when everything doesn't go her way...

Ugghhh...

I loved the Superman cameo's, but the rest of this season has been a wash for me.


I think this season isn't so much as wash as it was "This was kind of what I expected" in a sophomore season. Mainly that without a truly credible threat, Supergirl hasn't really reacted much other than having Cadmus kind of be the HYDRA for Supergirl.

I like the relationships. Just not fan of some of them.


It makes me sad that Smallville went 10 years, but Supergirl is out of threats by season 2...

Relationships as a rule aren't bad... all the shows have them. However, it shouldn't dominate... everything, and there should still be room for superheroics. If they don't adjust things quick... I don't think I'll be in for season 3 :-/


Phantom,

I'll be in it for season 3 because I got this feeling we might be getting some visitors from Apokolips. But don't quote me on that...


You think so? That would certainly keep me interested. Any clues I've missed so far?

With Darkseid and apokolypse in Justice League I wouldn't have thought they'd go that route on CW... I would have thought the Legion a surer bet (Who I am usually pretty meh about)... but really have no actual evidence one way or the other.


The only thing that I thought suggest it is I THOUGHT I saw Lillian Luthor with a Mother Box...


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phantom1592 wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:

You forgot "expert government agent and detective both fail to notice a guy (one of them knows) surveilling them for weeks."

Ehhh.. I let that one slide. I've seen it said in multiple shows that the idea you can be good enough to notice someone tailing you around is pretty much fantasy, Especially in places like New York City or other metropolis'...

While they SHOULDN'T be able to be take by surprise like that... It's the least of the sins in this show...

For that matter, how did he GET Alex in the first place? While she may not notice random guy on busy street... she shouldn't be able to be suckerpunched and dragged away?!

Except if the heroes attempt it one time, then the villain spots them immediately. And not seeing a tail once, yes, I buy that. Not noticing them for weeks, everywhere they go?


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I was just waiting for Mon-El to pull the trigger and have the gun go off despite the slide being held.


Green,

I wasn't expecting that but I was hoping Mon-El would kill himself...


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So....Cat Grant/Calista Flockhart proves she's worth the money. I just wish CW would find a way to find the budget to move back!

Oh and Reya needs to tell me how she's gotten control of Superman...

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

So....Cat Grant/Calista Flockhart proves she's worth the money. I just wish CW would find a way to find the budget to move back!

Oh and Reya needs to tell me how she's gotten control of Superman...

And also why she didn't do whatever she did to Superman to Supergirl also.

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JoelF847 wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:

So....Cat Grant/Calista Flockhart proves she's worth the money. I just wish CW would find a way to find the budget to move back!

Oh and Reya needs to tell me how she's gotten control of Superman...

And also why she didn't do whatever she did to Superman to Supergirl also.

First thing that came to mind was a re-tread of the mind control device from last year.


Thomas Seitz wrote:

So....Cat Grant/Calista Flockhart proves she's worth the money. I just wish CW would find a way to find the budget to move back!

Yeah, you don't realize how much you miss her until she comes back. She packed a season's worth of snarkiness into 30 minutes. Snapper has some of that, but he just comes off as a crotchety old man most of the time.

On a side note, am I the only one who hopes next year's meta-plot doesn't involve a xenophobic billionaire who has to team up with the good guys to fend off invading Kryptonians/Daxamites/Martians/Vulcans/Whatever? I was hoping Supergirl would break the CW super-show trend of holding the same meta-plot every year. You know, Oliver has to stop a genocidal madman from destroying/killing everyone in the city. Barry has to stop the evil Speedster before someone close to him dies. Etc. For all its flaws, at least Agents of SHIELD changes things up from year to year.


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Tar,

Agents kind of has to since they don't have the budget for the FX at times AND the fact Marvel has a restriction on not having Mutants.

But I do agree that CW has flaws about the stories at times.

Mostly I think we all agree, Snapper is more crotchety than snarky. Cat Grant/Calista is completely snarky and awesome.

Btw is anyone surprised that we have a Durlan now? I wonder if that means she's might be the mother of Chameleon Boy (or like an ancestor)

Joel,

Maybe she needed time. I dunno.


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So:
1) The President was not born in the United States. This makes it illegal for her to even run for the office. Which could be used to comment on the Birther Conspiracy if this show had any political savvy. And an entire US agency promises to keep this secret, and allow a criminal* in the White House.
* due to the act of running for and occupying an office she is not eligible for.
2) And I apologize to The Flash.
Aliens from the Rao star-system with Kryptonian powers. Check.
Planning to turn the Earth into "New-[Homeworld]". Check.
Mind Controlling Superman. Check.

Calista Flockhart was the best part of the episode.

Also, anyone notice how Guardian and the Daxamite soldiers look alike. almost like Guardian should have a better color palette, like maybe blue and gold? Making him bright and inspiring like Clark. Or Barry.
Funny how on Earth-1, heroes can wear a mask and still be inspiring, not scary.


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Green,

I think the reason they SKIPPED that is because it's pretty much a race baiting tactic that other people used.

But yes Calista was clearly the best part of the episode.

Earth-1 heroes wear masks because people there haven't had alien space gods to save them.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:

So:

1) The President was not born in the United States.

Do we know for certain that Olivia's Durlan parents (or at least mother) did not come to Earth/America decades ago, and give birth to a daughter here?

I can't remember what Olivia said about her world "Doorla." As long as her parents weren't stranded here, she could have been born in the US, raised on Durla, and returned as an adult.


Damon,

That's certainly possible! :) Also I'm pretty sure it's just Durla. Not Doorla. :)

Regardless I think the legitimacy of her presidency is less of an issue than you, Alien invasions?


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's just Durla. Not Doorla. :)

Just calling out her pronunciation.


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Damon Griffin wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's just Durla. Not Doorla. :)
Just calling out her pronunciation.

Its the Arkansas accent she is imitating.


Green,

That's probably it. Regardless now we got a Legion shout out via Durlans.


So...the season ended....and stuff I expected (sort of) happened.

But the ending...

Spoiler:
Okay WHO THE HELL is in that pod?!! Also is EVERYONE on Krypton put in pods now? Or just like the ones we didn't expect?

Also, is this the setup? New Villain that MIGHT be the Eradicator perhaps?


I wanted Mon-el (and what is up with him having an El name if he's not actually House of El? BAH!) to get his Valor costume, but NOOOOO.

He'll be back.

I'm thinking...

Spoiler:

The other pod is either Doomsday or H'el.

Most likely Doomsday.

I'm seriously happy with Hoechlin's Superman. He's just so good with it.

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