phantom1592 |
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I really do think trying to explain Superman is the issue. When Superman is in your universe it also ups the level of a cross over event. It's the challenge every Justice League writer runs into face first.
It has to be beyond the scope of "This looks like a job for Superman"
I thought they did a pretty good job in this episode though. Neither Kara or Clark would have been able to save that building... One needed to hold it while they other repaired it.
I also stand by that LoT takes place in the Arrowverse. Rip has commented on both the Man of Steel and the Dark Knight... not to mention Thanagar. therefore They're around... or will be around. They may still be in 'red/blue blur' stages somewhere and keeping their heads down... but DC is DC. If there are superpowered aliens running around, they won't need any more explaination than Dark and gritty street Arrow suddently having magical buddies like Constantine, time travel, reincarnation etc. etc.
Every season the world gets bigger and bigger
Drahliana Moonrunner |
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Drah,
No we got the Daxamite instead.
Also if Superman had been around in Arrowverse, I'd say he could have disabled MOST of those missiles. Or at least stopped more than 50% of them.
I have a feeling he's going to be retconned as a Kryptonian... either that, or we're going to see the storyline progressing for us to meet a certain 30th century superteam... and boyfriend, considering the field is clear now that Olsen's been dumped.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Wait? They introduced Miss Martian and the TV show didn't show it?!!
Also I liked that too but it would have made me squee to hear John William's score as Clark changed.
Sorry, was working on a press release.
Yes, it always amazes me listening to Amazon Prime music when the rotation jumps from Superman to Man of Steel. So much uplifting to so dark...
Hama |
Thomas Seitz wrote:Wait? They introduced Miss Martian and the TV show didn't show it?!!
Also I liked that too but it would have made me squee to hear John William's score as Clark changed.
Sorry, was working on a press release.
Yes, it always amazes me listening to Amazon Prime music when the rotation jumps from Superman to Man of Steel. So much uplifting to so dark...
Is it just me, or the sound cuts off in the last 10 seconds of the video. Just after you mention miss martian.
Cori Marie |
Thomas Seitz wrote:I have a feeling he's going to be retconned as a Kryptonian... either that, or we're going to see the storyline progressing for us to meet a certain 30th century superteam... and boyfriend, considering the field is clear now that Olsen's been dumped.Drah,
No we got the Daxamite instead.
Also if Superman had been around in Arrowverse, I'd say he could have disabled MOST of those missiles. Or at least stopped more than 50% of them.
Kriesberg hinted that there may be more than one Legionaire in the future (heh) of the show. I desperately hope to see Brainy, as I love Kara/Brainy so much.
Drahliana Moonrunner |
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:Kriesberg hinted that there may be more than one Legionaire in the future (heh) of the show. I desperately hope to see Brainy, as I love Kara/Brainy so much.Thomas Seitz wrote:I have a feeling he's going to be retconned as a Kryptonian... either that, or we're going to see the storyline progressing for us to meet a certain 30th century superteam... and boyfriend, considering the field is clear now that Olsen's been dumped.Drah,
No we got the Daxamite instead.
Also if Superman had been around in Arrowverse, I'd say he could have disabled MOST of those missiles. Or at least stopped more than 50% of them.
So maybe in a season or two the show's setting gets transferred to 30th century Metropolis?
Mark Moreland Developer |
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Hama |
Hama wrote:Hama, if you don't know Lynda Carter is, and her place in DC mythology, I'm going to have to grab my walker and educate you ;-)Ok, what am I missing?
** spoiler omitted **
Oh I know who she is, but she is not playing and ageing Wonder Woman here......oh. Silly me. I get it.
Thomas Seitz |
Matthew,
I think he meant character wise. At least I HOPE he meant character wise.
To answer your question, Hama, no one knows for sure other than she's the president AND as Matthew speculated, she might be a Durlan.
I have no clear idea why but apparently people are now shipping Maggie Sawyer and Alex Danvers. Not that I'm complaining but I always thought Maggie was better with Kate Kane.
Mark Moreland Developer |
So what's everyone's verdict of this episode?
The episode seemed overly political given the current discourse about immigration in the US. It's not the first time a superhero show (or CW show, for that matter) has attempted to be topical on social or political issues, but this seemed so on-the-nose. I wonder how the pro-immigrant message went over with Trump supporters?
Norman Osborne |
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So what's everyone's verdict of this episode?
It managed to send a bit of a mixed message with Snapper Carr. Apparently we're supposed to hate the guy because he wants there to be an actual story before writing the headline, and because he wants reporters to report the facts instead of clubbing the reader over the head with opinions.
Dal Selpher |
Well, I thought a little too much of this past episode was just a little bit too much on the nose for my tastes.
Didn't care for Lynda Carter's performance very much and the whole "see my other jet <insert hammy wink here>" bit at the end grated.
I did like Mon-El a bunch, and was surprised by M'gann's appearance - I hadn't caught the buzz around her and that proved to be a pleasant reveal. I just hope with all the new players Winn and Jimmy don't continue to get short shrift like they have these first 3 episodes.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Dal,
Winn will probably start romancing Kara after failing with Mon-El.
Jimmy I think is destined for second tier status in this show.
I liked Lynda's performance.
Actually Jimmy's got a bigger destiny later in the season.
Mark Moreland Developer |
Thomas Seitz wrote:Mark,
I imagine they had apoplectic brain aneurysms.
Does make me wonder if we're going to see this President blatantly violate various laws national security on and get a pass on it because she's part of the system.
It is a work of fiction, so conspiracy theories seem like a better fit on the show than they do in the real world.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Matthew Morris wrote:It is a work of fiction, so conspiracy theories seem like a better fit on the show than they do in the real world.Thomas Seitz wrote:Mark,
I imagine they had apoplectic brain aneurysms.
Does make me wonder if we're going to see this President blatantly violate various laws national security on and get a pass on it because she's part of the system.
True, they'd not need nearly as much evidence as exists in the real world.
John Kretzer |
I like this episode despite the political sledgehammers. It is very interesting development to have aliens treated as full American citizens. She did say they would have full league rights...which I would guess means that the agency the work for are going to have to change.
I do find a couple of things to be ironic...
- like they making out to be a bad guy the only journalist there that understand what the media should be doing.
- how the episode is all about the rights of aliens...and than a hero uses police brutality to try to get the key info out of one.
Hama |
I like this episode despite the political sledgehammers. It is very interesting development to have aliens treated as full American citizens. She did say they would have full league rights...which I would guess means that the agency the work for are going to have to change.
I do find a couple of things to be ironic...
- like they making out to be a bad guy the only journalist there that understand what the media should be doing.
- how the episode is all about the rights of aliens...and than a hero uses police brutality to try to get the key info out of one.
I don't think they were trying to paint him as the bad guy. He did smile in the end.
Sometimes you have to do a bad thing so that people live.