Unchained Rogue Build

[A Ninja's Puzzlebox]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=188621

Any suggestions? My friend is having us all make characters in the new book now that it's out effectively restarting his campaign, tried my hand with the new rogue and this is what I came up with.

Skills, items, hp not calculated, we are also using variant multiclassing.

Didn't want to write in what things do from the new book, since they don't want the new rules posted to people in these posts.

[Eigengrau]

There's a pretty solid build by IMUSTMASK, I think, in the Unchained Rogue discussion thread in General Discussion section.

I can't view your build from my phone. His uses Eldritch Heritage Shadow for lots of stealth options.

If I made one I'd VMC the Magus and get Arcane Deeds with my arcanas to get swashbuckler stuff

[King In Red]

Eigengrau wrote:

There's a pretty solid build by IMUSTMASK, I think, in the Unchained Rogue discussion thread in General Discussion section.

I can't view your build from my phone. His uses Eldritch Heritage Shadow for lots of stealth options.

If I made one I'd VMC the Magus and get Arcane Deeds with my arcanas to get swashbuckler stuff

Can you link the build of IMUSTMASK please?

[Eigengrau]

King In Red wrote:

Eigengrau wrote:

There's a pretty solid build by IMUSTMASK, I think, in the Unchained Rogue discussion thread in General Discussion section.

I can't view your build from my phone. His uses Eldritch Heritage Shadow for lots of stealth options.

If I made one I'd VMC the Magus and get Arcane Deeds with my arcanas to get swashbuckler stuff

Can you link the build of IMUSTMASK please?

It will be several hours before I can link it, I can't do it from my phone.

[Eigengrau]

Sorry it took so long for a reply, but here is the build you wanted linked. Its from poster "AndIMustMask" here on the forums.

half-elf unchained rogue 20
FCB: 18 human (+3 talents), 2 hp
Alt racials: dual-minded (+2 will)
example stats (dex>cha>con=wis>int>str)
base: str 10, dex 16 (5+2r), con 14 (5), int 10, wis 14 (5), cha 14 (5)
final: str 16, dex 32, con 20, int 16, wis 20, cha 24
+5 dex (level), +6 all (gear), +5 dex/+4 cha (book/wish)

traits - river rat/reactionary

edges
5 - stealth
10 - perception
15 - sleight of hand
20 - escape artist

talents
2 - combat trick (TWF)
4 - minor magic (detect magic at-will)
6 - fast stealth
6* - major magic (chill touch 8/day)
8 - ninja trick (pressure points)
10 - double debilitation
12 - slippery mind
12* - crippling strike
14 - opportunist
16 - improved evasion
18 - ???
18* - ???
20 - ???

feats
1 - skill focus (stealth)
1* - weapon finesse (dagger/???/??? +D2D)
3 - eldritch heritage (shadow 1)
5 - steadfast personality
7 - hellcat stealth
9 - ITWF
11 - improved eldritch heritage (shadow 9)
13 - dampen presence
15 - ???
17 - ???
19 - ???

-pretty much always attacks touch after level 6 (helps offset TWF penalties and low bab)
-can inflict 2 debilitations + stat damage (str or dex) on sneak attacks
-has HiPS light+dark+blindsight/sense at levels 7, 11, and 13 respectively, moves full speed during stealth at no penalty, and the stealth-break sneak attacks last all turn instead of a single attack (depending on stealth ranks).
-fairly MAD, but gets both wis and cha to will saves as well as slippery mind.
kinda lowish on accuracy, but after activating chill touch and you get an AC debilitation on them you're all set for the most part.

the build becomes MUCH more flexible with the action economy rework, since he could [move or step+stealth]+[TWF]+[ITWF] for four sneak attacks and loads of debuffs pretty much every round.

[thatcheriliff]

A Ninja's Puzzlebox wrote:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=188621

Any suggestions? My friend is having us all make characters in the new book now that it's out effectively restarting his campaign, tried my hand with the new rogue and this is what I came up with.

Skills, items, hp not calculated, we are also using variant multiclassing.

Didn't want to write in what things do from the new book, since they don't want the new rules posted to people in these posts.

Do you have to use VM? I posted two different rogue builds here, but they don't use VM. They could spark some ideas though:

Pathfinder Unchained Rogue Builds

[blashimov]

Steadfast personality replaces wis with cha so I'm not sure how this build gets both to will saves, or why it'd be better than iron will.