Paizo Top Nav Branding
  • Hello, Guest! |
  • Sign In |
  • My Account |
  • Shopping Cart |
  • Help/FAQ
About Paizo Messageboards News Paizo Blog Help/FAQ
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game

Starfinder


Pathfinder Society


Pathfinder Adventure Card Game

How would you build Razmir, the false / living God


Advice

51 to 63 of 63 << first < prev | 1 | 2 | next > last >>

DwarfMan Esq. wrote:
I really don't get why people would recommend builds that break the 19 levels of wizard he's already got going for him... The whole point of his character is that he's Just a powerful wizard who's got a cult of personality around him. I guess people just don't think pure wizards can cut the mustard anymore

I guess most people got it in their head that you can't be godlike with only having class levels, despite all the godlike things a 19th level character is capable of.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

What if Razmir really is a god? Maybe he is a god of deception pretending to be a wizard who is pretending to be a god? He became a god by pulling off a hoax of pretending to be a god, but if anyone finds out the truth he loses his divinity and becomes mortal. As long as no one finds out the whole truth he remains a god.

He is deceiving people on multiple levels. The first level is pretending to be a deity, but he leaves enough clues to allow doubt. Those that look into it further are deceived into believing he is a not really a god but is a fraud. His quest for the sun orchid elixir is just a diversion because he really does not need it.

I know it is a ridiculous idea but for some reason it just popped up in my head that maybe he is really a god.


^I suppose that would be one way of getting around divine rules against deities directly messing around with mortal affairs . . . .

Dark Archive

1 person marked this as a favorite.

Just because Golarion is *crawling* with powerful wizards, and not nearly as many high level sorcerers, I like the idea of Razmir being a super-high level sorcerer.

He'll never get the arcane discovery for immortality, if he even knows it exists, because, not a wizard! He's got amazing charisma, and, well, he's not dumb, exactly, but he's not exactly a rocket scientist, either. Fortunately it doesn't take being a rocket scientist to run one of the River Kingdoms (and he's probably as smart as or smarter than most of them what do). :)

As a sorcerer, he's got a pretty limited bag of tricks, boosted by various work-arounds, but they are good tricks, and he can UMD just about *anything* he wants to fake.

He's also got a few (heavily dominated) people who stand in for him, from time to time, and they have different bags of tricks, so it's entirely possible that 'Razmir' has been seen casting mesmerist spells, or giving a speech with bardic performance, or even pushing out some divine oracular spells, which just adds to his divine mystique, as the vast, vast majority of even his highest-ranking priests don't know about the occasional stand-ins, and therefore believe that Razmir can, demonstrably, do *anything,* and must indeed be a god.


What I really don't understand, is why he isn't immortal already. He's capable of casting 9th level spells and has the resources of a nation and a church at his disposal. What more does he need?


1 person marked this as a favorite.
VRMH wrote:
What I really don't understand, is why he isn't immortal already. He's capable of casting 9th level spells and has the resources of a nation and a church at his disposal. What more does he need?

One more level and/or a mythic tier.


VRMH wrote:
What I really don't understand, is why he isn't immortal already. He's capable of casting 9th level spells and has the resources of a nation and a church at his disposal. What more does he need?

Something that PCs can interfere with somehow. I mean, he's a Big Bad, after all, and the whole point of them is that their ill-laid schemes will be frustrated by a bunch of heroes...


VRMH wrote:
What I really don't understand, is why he isn't immortal already. He's capable of casting 9th level spells and has the resources of a nation and a church at his disposal. What more does he need?

One more PC group . . . just one more PC group . . . .


I'd give Razmir a custom greater silent & still metamagic "rod" (possibly taking the form of a heavy ring or bracelet, so he can wear it instead of needing to grip it) - allowing him to cast wish without actually saying anything.

Of course, that's 25K a pop for every display of "divinity," so he shouldn't do it often.

I figured his sacking of that one city involved a lot of scrolls, though I suppose opening a gate to the Plane of Fire might get acceptable results. After all, you can open a Gate a few hundred feet away from yourself, staying well out of any harmful effects that may pour forth...


Or maybe more easily, just choose to sack a city that is build out of tinder. One Incendiary Cloud with Extend Spell and a Greater Metamagic Rod of Widen Spell applied, and the whole thing is giong to go up in flame. Periodically cast Pyrotechnics (choosing the sparks option, and preferably with Widen spell applied) to hasten the spread and make people think that more fire is raining from the sky. Wide-area illusion of raining fire would help as well, so that people trying to stop the fire waste their efforts on the wrong targets.


2 people marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber, Campaign Setting, Companion, Maps, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Shame he wasn't an arcane sorcerer. Then he could have made this and had infinite wish power.

Casual Viking wrote:
Did Razmir cause the rain of fire over Melcat, or did he predict it, and lay his plans accordingly?

Damn. Beat me to it.

Razmir didn't need to destroy Melcat. Melcat was already doomed. He just followed the meteor for a time, then stepped onto the scene after the fact.

"Worship me or perish in fire!"

He gets ignored.

Meteor crashes down killing most everyone.

Survivors spread Razmir's lies for him.


^Of course, given enough time and resources to prepare, a high-level spellcaster might well be able to modify the course of a meteor . . . .

Dark Archive

1 person marked this as a favorite.
Ravingdork wrote:

Razmir didn't need to destroy Melcat. Melcat was already doomed. He just followed the meteor for a time, then stepped onto the scene after the fact.

"Worship me or perish in fire!"

He gets ignored.

Meteor crashes down killing most everyone.

Survivors spread Razmir's lies for him.

That would be a hilarious setting element for a game in which the GM wants the Divination school to be taken seriously.

"Yeah, just lucky I guess, that the earth split open and destroyed the capitol building just after I said to the crowd, 'And if the rulers be false, let the earth swallow them up!' And now I'm god-emperor."

51 to 63 of 63 << first < prev | 1 | 2 | next > last >>
Paizo / Messageboards / Paizo / Pathfinder® / Pathfinder RPG / Advice / How would you build Razmir, the false / living God All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.

©2002-2017 Paizo Inc.® | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Need help? Email customer.service@paizo.com or call 425-250-0800 during our business hours, Monday through Friday, 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM Pacific time.

Paizo Inc., Paizo, the Paizo golem logo, Pathfinder, the Pathfinder logo, Pathfinder Society, Starfinder, the Starfinder logo, GameMastery, and Planet Stories are registered trademarks of Paizo Inc. The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Adventure Card Game, Pathfinder Player Companion, Pathfinder Modules, Pathfinder Tales, Pathfinder Battles, Pathfinder Legends, Pathfinder Online, Starfinder Adventure Path, PaizoCon, RPG Superstar, The Golem's Got It, Titanic Games, the Titanic logo, and the Planet Stories planet logo are trademarks of Paizo Inc. Dungeons & Dragons, Dragon, Dungeon, and Polyhedron are registered trademarks of Wizards of the Coast, Inc., a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc., and have been used by Paizo Inc. under license. Most product names are trademarks owned or used under license by the companies that publish those products; use of such names without mention of trademark status should not be construed as a challenge to such status.