Which Classes Automatically Gain 'Shield Proficiency' as a Feat?


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The shield proficiency feat includes this text:

"Barbarians, bards, clerics, druids, fighters, paladins, and rangers all automatically have Shield Proficiency as a bonus feat. They need not select it."

I suspect that other classes should be in that list, such as some of those from the Advanced Class Guide.

What other classes automatically gain this feat?


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Hollister wrote:


The shield proficiency feat includes this text:

"Barbarians, bards, clerics, druids, fighters, paladins, and rangers all automatically have Shield Proficiency as a bonus feat. They need not select it."

I suspect that other classes should be in that list, such as some of those from the Advanced Class Guide.

What other classes automatically gain this feat?

All classes have a "Weapon and Armor Proficiency" section that lists what they get for free. The Inquisitor for example:

Inquisitor wrote:

Weapon and Armor Proficiency

An inquisitor is proficient with all simple weapons, plus the hand crossbow, longbow, repeating crossbow, shortbow, and the favored weapon of her deity. She is also proficient with light armor, medium armor, and shields (except tower shields).

So the Inquisitor gets Shield Proficiency (except for tower shields) as a bonus feat.


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Most classes designed to be in melee combat will have it. If the class says that it is proficient with shields then it has the feat.

Scarab Sages

Hollister wrote:


The shield proficiency feat includes this text:

"Barbarians, bards, clerics, druids, fighters, paladins, and rangers all automatically have Shield Proficiency as a bonus feat. They need not select it."

I suspect that other classes should be in that list, such as some of those from the Advanced Class Guide.

What other classes automatically gain this feat?

The key to note is that the feat in question is a Core feat. It will not reference any of the books that come after it, ever. Thats why only core classes are referenced in the feat's text.

As others have said, the Weapon and Armor proficiency list for each class spells it out for you. As a note, shields except for tower shields is a common one, because tower shield proficiency is its own feat.

Sczarni

This discussion applies similar logic to weapon and armor proficiencies, as well.

A class "proficient in martial weapons" effectively has "Martial Weapon Proficiency (Longsword/Greatsword/Longbow/etc)".

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These answers make sense - thanks all!


Just to head this off at the pass: You can't retrain shield proficiency granted by class weapon/armor proficiencies.

Sczarni

I would hope people wouldn't assume they could.

Every Martial class would suddenly have the potential to train out dozens of feats =P


Nefreet wrote:

I would hope people wouldn't assume they could.

Every Martial class would suddenly have the potential to train out dozens of feats =P

Mwahahahaha. I'd like to retrain shield proficiency into Extra Rage Power, then Martial Weapon (rapier) into Extra Rage Power, then Martial Weapon (greatclub) into ...

And now I'm looking forward to asking my GM if I ever get my hands on one of the martial weapons in the extra stuff. Because everyone loves three-section staves (sansetsukon?), right?

Sczarni

*shudders*

I watched as a boyfriend of mine once hit himself hard in the back of the head with one of those. He just immediately collapsed. Luckily he just got knocked out (and on a grassy field), but we all thought he'd done some serious damage.

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