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Freehold DM wrote:

You do realize this takes place concurrent with Episode 4 right?

Me, I liked the helmets from Star Wars Legacy, but that would be going a bit too far into the future.

Yes, I know. Which is why I'm glad to see proper Stormie helmets. I, OTOH, thought Legacy was s*%% in just about every respect. Design, setting, plot, characters; everything.

Krensky wrote:
I can never remember, was Leia heading towards Tatooine to recruit Obi-Wan, or was she just jumped by the Devastator as she passed by en route to Aldebaran? I seem to remember it's the later.

Leia was on the way to find Obi-Wan. Why else would she be in the arse end of nowhere, and have her last desperate actions on the Tantive IV be to send a droid to find Obi-Wan to bring him out of retirement?

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

You do realize this takes place concurrent with Episode 4 right?

Me, I liked the helmets from Star Wars Legacy, but that would be going a bit too far into the future.

Yes, I know. Which is why I'm glad to see proper Stormie helmets. I, OTOH, thought Legacy was s%&# in just about every respect. Design, setting, plot, characters; everything.

Krensky wrote:
I can never remember, was Leia heading towards Tatooine to recruit Obi-Wan, or was she just jumped by the Devastator as she passed by en route to Aldebaran? I seem to remember it's the later.
Leia was on the way to find Obi-Wan. Why else would she be in the arse end of nowhere, and have her last desperate actions on the Tantive IV be to send a droid to find Obi-Wan to bring him out of retirement?

That doesn't make any sense. Why would a ship with such critical information take a detour to recruit Obi-Wan when you can send someone else to do that instead? I'd imagine the rebels would want those plans as quickly as possible.

I imagine that, since Leia was pretending to be on a diplomatic mission for the Senate (if I remember correctly) she had to take a twisted path to hold the cover story intact and possibly to better conceal the location of the hidden rebel base. Maybe once the empire started closing in she made course to Tattoine as a last resort type of thing.

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Well, checking the dialog she says Bail sent her to recruit him to the Alliance.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

You do realize this takes place concurrent with Episode 4 right?

Me, I liked the helmets from Star Wars Legacy, but that would be going a bit too far into the future.

Yes, I know. Which is why I'm glad to see proper Stormie helmets. I, OTOH, thought Legacy was s@+# in just about every respect. Design, setting, plot, characters; everything

...I...see...

Removes bjørn from Christmas card list

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Freehold DM wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

You do realize this takes place concurrent with Episode 4 right?

Me, I liked the helmets from Star Wars Legacy, but that would be going a bit too far into the future.

Yes, I know. Which is why I'm glad to see proper Stormie helmets. I, OTOH, thought Legacy was s@+# in just about every respect. Design, setting, plot, characters; everything

...I...see...

Removes bjørn from Christmas card list

Well, as long as you are not sending your kill squads I suppose Byorn should feel lucky...

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The hell of being the sort of person who doesn't like Legacy is it's own punishment.


Freehold DM wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

You do realize this takes place concurrent with Episode 4 right?

Me, I liked the helmets from Star Wars Legacy, but that would be going a bit too far into the future.

Yes, I know. Which is why I'm glad to see proper Stormie helmets. I, OTOH, thought Legacy was s@+# in just about every respect. Design, setting, plot, characters; everything

...I...see...

Removes bjørn from Christmas card list

Actually, going back and looking at the stormie design, it's pretty good (i.e. close to the original design). Not as good as the original or g3 Clones, but not bad. I was just blinded by my disgust for the starfighter design and the characters.

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Going from the episode 4 opening crawl, it says the rebels got the plans during a battle, the first major victory against the empire. It also says Leia is the custodian of the plans. Looks like the battle will be the climax of the film. Curious of the battle was to get the plans or they just intercepted the plans by accident.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

You do realize this takes place concurrent with Episode 4 right?

Me, I liked the helmets from Star Wars Legacy, but that would be going a bit too far into the future.

Yes, I know. Which is why I'm glad to see proper Stormie helmets. I, OTOH, thought Legacy was s@+# in just about every respect. Design, setting, plot, characters; everything

...I...see...

Removes bjørn from Christmas card list
Actually, going back and looking at the stormie design, it's pretty good (i.e. close to the original design). Not as good as the original or g3 Clones, but not bad. I was just blinded by my disgust for the starfighter design and the characters.

If you're talking about Legacy, I understand the starfighter design. As fo the characters, well...you're still off the x-mas card list.

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Is Leia going to appear in Rouge One? If so, is it known how they intend to pull that off? If she will not, how will they avoid showing her?

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Lord Snow wrote:
Is Leia going to appear in Rouge One? If so, is it known how they intend to pull that off? If she will not, how will they avoid showing her?

They pulled off a living Paul Walker that looked pretty convincing. They pulled off a 30 years younger Schwarzenegger in Terminator: Genisys. Carry Fisher is still alive. CGI facelifts anyone?

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*cough* Lawrence Olivier *cough*

Plus the current line is that the plans were transmitted to her, so she's not really needed on screen.

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There is a rumor that Carrie Fisher's daughter is playing a younger Leia in a flashback in episode 7. So if thats true, maybe use Her?

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Minor Rogue One character update

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Hopefully a trailer soon.

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Probably with Captain America Civil War.

Definitely by Celebration.


I truly cannot wait for this movie. I have wanted this since I was a kid, even more when the rogue squadron books and comics came out, even more when I had a computer that could RUN X WING VS TIE FIGHTER OMGGGGGGGGG.

There better be y wings in this movie.

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Seriously man, get some help.

We're worried for you.

;)

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There should be. After all it happens before ANH


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Y wings were always such easy targets in TFW.

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What's "TFW"?

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The old Tie Fighter game? Y-Wings were easy kills because they were so slow, but they took a beating before they went down. Strong hull and shields on those wishbones.

I also liked flying them because you could link your lasers and ions for stronger shield penetration.

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They were pretty useful in destroying capital ships in Empire at War.

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Hama wrote:
They were pretty useful in destroying capital ships in Empire at War.

I've destroyed several Star Destroyers with no missiles or torps in my history of that game. Strafing runs at close range to destroy turrets, then take out the shield generator towers, then quickly disable the ship with ion cannons, then use lasers for the coup de grace.

Sigh. Looks like I'm going to need to fire up the gog version now.

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There is a gog version? Nice.
I also like rebellion, but it is a little dated now


Imbicatus wrote:

The old Tie Fighter game? Y-Wings were easy kills because they were so slow, but they took a beating before they went down. Strong hull and shields on those wishbones.

I also liked flying them because you could link your lasers and ions for stronger shield penetration.

I welcome ties to try to shoot me down. I'll orient my ion cannons on you and fire back.

#xwingalliancedreams


Freehold DM wrote:

I truly cannot wait for this movie. I have wanted this since I was a kid, even more when the rogue squadron books and comics came out, even more when I had a computer that could RUN X WING VS TIE FIGHTER OMGGGGGGGGG.

There better be y wings in this movie.

I hope to see some T-16's in it, maybe some womprats getting pasted as well


Black Dougal wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

I truly cannot wait for this movie. I have wanted this since I was a kid, even more when the rogue squadron books and comics came out, even more when I had a computer that could RUN X WING VS TIE FIGHTER OMGGGGGGGGG.

There better be y wings in this movie.

I hope to see some T-16's in it, maybe some womprats getting pasted as well

I believe the ones I want them to make official, and which I want to see are Z-95's.

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Z95s appeared in Clone Wars, so they are canon, even though they haven't been in a movie.


I'll admit, I'll probably see this movie... but I'm not excited about it at all.

Same basic principle with the prequels... I have a tough time getting excited about something when you already know the outcome. Besides the idea of 'the rebels that stole the death star plans' has at least been mentioned a couple times already... and it'll be a star wars without jedi...

Just not feeling this.

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Dark Forces level 1 will always be steal the plans in my head canon.

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I agree, not really feeling that this is a movie I ever felt the need to see. It's clever when a video game like Dark Forces uses this tidbit as a plot, but for a movie, especially an expanded universe for Star Wars, I'd have much much much rather them had movies that filled in the gaps between episode VI and VII since obviously we are missing a lot, or even better movies in roughly the same time as episode VII, but focusing on an original character. Do a few like that, and then have them tie in to episode IX and show up there.

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phantom1592 wrote:

I'll admit, I'll probably see this movie... but I'm not excited about it at all.

Same basic principle with the prequels... I have a tough time getting excited about something when you already know the outcome. Besides the idea of 'the rebels that stole the death star plans' has at least been mentioned a couple times already... and it'll be a star wars without jedi...

Just not feeling this.

Honestly after seeing SW:FA i'm expecting Rouge One will be better. Besides last time they added a bunch of jedi it sucked.


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I knew they'd pull off the heist in Ocean's Eleven - still enjoyed it, though.

In some stories it's the how that's important.

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We know the plans get to Leia.

We don't know how or if the people involved survive.

I mean it's Disney, so they're not going to kill everyone, but still.


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They'd better kill many Bothans.

EDIT: Sorry, wrong Death Star.


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Krensky wrote:

We know the plans get to Leia.

We don't know how or if the people involved survive.

I mean it's Disney, so they're not going to kill everyone, but still.

I've never found the "but we know how it's going to end" complaint persuasive. Of course we know how it's going to end. In broad general terms, just like we know how every action movie is going to end. The hero beats the bad guy and gets the girl. Even in the cliffhanger action scenes, the question is how the hero escapes, not whether or not he escapes.

It's the journey and the details that can be surprising, not the final outcome.

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I for one welcome a Star Wars movie with no damn Jedi in it. Finally. Normal people doing normal people stuff.

Also would it kill them to make a Republic Commando movie?


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thejeff wrote:
Krensky wrote:

We know the plans get to Leia.

We don't know how or if the people involved survive.

I mean it's Disney, so they're not going to kill everyone, but still.

I've never found the "but we know how it's going to end" complaint persuasive. Of course we know how it's going to end. In broad general terms, just like we know how every action movie is going to end. The hero beats the bad guy and gets the girl. Even in the cliffhanger action scenes, the question is how the hero escapes, not whether or not he escapes.

It's the journey and the details that can be surprising, not the final outcome.

Depends on the story you are trying to tell. In the case of Rogue one, it's a prequel with entirely new characters whose only prequel elements are "death star plans get stolen". So yeah it's about as novel as you can get, and shouldn't suffer prequelitis.

In a movie like say Pan, or the Star Wars Prequel trilogy, that heavily revolve the backstory of the main characters and settings, there is a lot less novel elements to include potentially, or you remove the mystery around characters that made them interesting.


MMCJawa wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Krensky wrote:

We know the plans get to Leia.

We don't know how or if the people involved survive.

I mean it's Disney, so they're not going to kill everyone, but still.

I've never found the "but we know how it's going to end" complaint persuasive. Of course we know how it's going to end. In broad general terms, just like we know how every action movie is going to end. The hero beats the bad guy and gets the girl. Even in the cliffhanger action scenes, the question is how the hero escapes, not whether or not he escapes.

It's the journey and the details that can be surprising, not the final outcome.

Depends on the story you are trying to tell. In the case of Rogue one, it's a prequel with entirely new characters whose only prequel elements are "death star plans get stolen". So yeah it's about as novel as you can get, and shouldn't suffer prequelitis.

In a movie like say Pan, or the Prequels, that heavily revolve the backstory of the main characters and settings, there is a lot less novel elements to include potentially, or you remove the mystery around characters that made them interesting.

Well the prequels sucked, but there's definitely an interesting story in the fall of Anakin that could have been told - even knowing that it would happen.

You can provide answers to mysteries about characters without removing the interest, they just have to be good answers.

Interestingly, thinking about that - the prequels really could only be done as prequels. A standalone series about the corruption of a young hero and the fall of a Republic into tyranny would be far to much of a downer to work as an action adventure piece.
Because we already have the ending, it could work.


thejeff wrote:

Well the prequels sucked, but there's definitely an interesting story in the fall of Anakin that could have been told - even knowing that it would happen.

You can provide answers to mysteries about characters without removing the interest, they just have to be good answers.

"A" Prequel could be fun. But a trilogy pushed it too far for me. There were questions that I wanted answered.. but not enough for three movies where we knew everyone in a cartoon series for 6 years having already SEEN them die... It just couldn't hold my interest. I'm pretty sure but 4 characters were going to die... and then to stretch it out? I think we only got three whole movies... because the original was arbitrarily titled episode IV. Had that not been there, they probably would have tried to set it up as one good movie.

30 years later?? 'HOw the rebels got the death star plans'... REALLY isn't even on my radar for questions I want answered. I haven't thought about it in years, and it doesn't really matter anymore.

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Kryzbyn wrote:

They'd better kill many Bothans.

EDIT: Sorry, wrong Death Star.

We would still be happy to oblige.

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Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:

They'd better kill many Bothans.

EDIT: Sorry, wrong Death Star.

We would still be happy to oblige.

Just make sure one of them is named Borsk.

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Bothans are morons. If Borrsk Fey'la was never born, so many things would have turned out for the better.

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Hama wrote:
Bothans are morons. If Borrsk Fey'la was never born, so many things would have turned out for the better.

Well, barring any re-introduction from a new canon source, he never was now.

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Which is partly awesome, and partly well we all grieve for the good EU stuff.

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The current release dates for the next five Star Wars movies.

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Rogue One character Code names.

For a different set of reasons I am nearly as excited and hopeful for this movie as I was for The Force Awakens.

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Those code names are incredibly ridiculous

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Kryzbyn wrote:

They'd better kill many Gunguns.

EDIT: Sorry, wrong Death Star.

I fixed that for you ;)

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