Nonverbal Bard-Only Spells


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Glibness is a spell that is only on the bard spell list, no other. Its listing says it only has somatic components, but the bard class description says all bard spells have verbal components. There are other, less commonly used bard-only nonverbal spells, like Resounding Clang and Borrow Skill.

Is this a case where the specific (the spell description) overrides the general (the class description)? Or do these spells have a verbal component when bards cast them?

If the spell description overrides the class description in these cases, is that also true of nonverbal spells like Mislead, which can be cast by other classes?


Two reasons

1: It's not that hard to get the spell on another class's list, even if it is only officially added to the bard's list
2: Back in 3.5 the spell was also on the Assassin's list, and Assassin didn't (or at least wasn't supposed to have) that restriction


Hm... it still seems an oversight at best.

(Also, it's interesting that it doesn't seem to have existed before 3.5 - huh. Also, also, I just got a really old OotS joke, as the "philter of glibness" existed in AD&D, but, of course, would be an elixir in 3.5 - that philter just didn't sell as the world updated through two editions. Nice.)

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