5th level Deathstroke advice


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Hi in my friends home-brew campaign that takes place in Galt I am playing a pathfinderized low level version of Slade Wilson (Deathstroke). He is a 5th level Slayer wielding a whip-wood quarter staff, two katanas, and a crossbow. Any advice as for feats and just generally how to play and role-play Deathstroke? So far I had him assassinate a belligerent dwarf who was giving the party problems.


If it were me I would play a crusader cleric1/ monkX of Shizuru. Grab crusaders flurry at level 3 and your set. Slade was not a deeply charismatic man but be did know what to say to influence folks so I'd take conversion inquisition to represent this. From that point on just stick the bonus feats the monk give and decide where you want to go from there. Would be easy to have several style feats.

Guided hand feat is also worthwhile if you seek wisdom being how he fights (closer to Raz I think though). Weapon adept monk is a worthy alternative to vanilla monk.


I am stuck with the 5 levels of slayer as he as already been introduced to some of the party. I am basing him partially off DC Comics Slade Wilson but also off the TV show Arrow interpretation of Slade Wilson. Mostly what I am looking for is roleplaying suggestions and advice on advancing the current version that I have. I can post the build if necessary.

Scarab Sages

Don't actually try to dual-wield the katanas. TWF is bad enough when you aren't using two one handed weapons. If you are going off the Arrow version of the character, the weapons are closer to a wakizashi or sawtooth sabers than a katana, which is what I would use for TWFing.

Grand Lodge

RP advice.. Arrow Slade was gruff at first but once he warmed up to people he wasn't so bad. So don't be a mustache twirling villain from the start.

Also, maybe mix some broken glass and gravel in a blender, add some motor oil, and down it before a session. It should be just enough to give you that awesome manly voice.


First off, I may not know a lot about the Deathstroke (shame he is awesome) but I wouldn't consider him anywhere near a mustache twirling villain. I would say he would fall into the category of chaotic neutral. Does whatever if the price is right kinda guy if my limited knowledge is correct. It may be troublesome to deal with as I am unaware of the alignment of your party, but generally your willingness to do something should be based on whether you feel you are being compensated adequately. You are a mercenary no two ways around it you are in this for money. Your party should be considered as tools to get the job done until they have earned your respect. As I said this could be frustrating for the party to deal with but that is sort of my impression of deathstroke, however strictly you wish to go by this is obviously up to you.


Do you guys think I should stick with slayer or possibly multiclass? The feats I have so far are (and these could be changed my GM is pretty lax about that kind of stuff) power attack, two weapon fighting, double slice, weapon proficiency sawtooth saber, improved unarmed strike, and dodge.


I was thinking of multiclassing with gunslinger as Slade uses guns with skill.


What are your ability scores?

What level?

Edit: just read title. You still 5th?


Still at 5th. Scores are as follows we use a weird homebrew system to calculate them.

Str 20
Dex 20
Con 18
Int 17
Wis 13
Cha 10


Wow.

Basically any class would work with those scores.


I am playing the first five as slayer but I need advice on further levels and feats and gear.


Hmm.

Gunslinger is possible, although you'll suffer from lack of grit based on your low Wisdom.


Is their a feat to make grit intelligence based? Or is their another class that grants gun proficiency ?


There are a few, yes.

Or, you could stay slayer, and take Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearms).


That could work. Any suggestions as to equipment?


Obviously a gun or two.

Maybe magic guns?


Aren't guns kinda worthless without rapid reload though? Maybe I should just stick to swords and the occasional crossbow. Unless I could talk my GM into letting me replace dodge or power attack with exotic weapon proficiency fire arms and then take rapid reload at 6th level. Or is it more affective to just focus on two weapon fighting (my version of Slade fights with his fists, a quarterstaff, and two sawtoothe sabres).


Well, you could always rebuild into a different class. If you have only just been introduced then you could rebuild and no one would know.


Naw I like Slayer.


Well then. Two weapons would easily work. Depending on how close to the show you want to be wakizhis (I know that's not how it's spelled, I don't care). They take one less feat than Sawthooths do.


I thought Wakizashis are also exotic weapones

Scarab Sages

Gwyndrath wrote:
I thought Wakizashis are also exotic weapones

They are. Both they and the sawtooth sabers are not worth the feat for proficiency imo. If you are getting it for free via class or race, fine, but I wouldn't waste a feat on it.

That said, Samurai resolve is a great way to mimic Slade's toughness to kill, and gives your proficiency and bonuses with the wakizashis.

If staying pure slayer, I would use shortswords or kukris.


what about the triat that lets you take a trait of another race? I could take the Tengu sword proficiency one? I could say he was trained by Tengus r adopted by them or something.

Scarab Sages

That doesn't work. Swordtrained is an alternate racial trait, not a race trait. A race trait is a trait from the race group. Paizo needs a thesaurus.


You sure? I checked and the traitbis called adopted and I lookedd up swordtrained and that wasnt an alternatate racial trait.


Gwyndrath wrote:
You sure? I checked and the traitbis called adopted and I lookedd up swordtrained and that wasnt an alternatate racial trait.

What he means is you'd be able to take a race trait of another race, race traits are another category of traits akin to combat, magic, faith, social, equipment, ect...

Swordtrained is a racial trait, not the same thing.


Ok nvm then. For feats I need to decide between going with EWP firearms or making my way up the TWF tree with two weapon feint, TW rend or Improved TWF. For the next level I see myself having a few good options ,stick with slayer, or go with fighter, gunslinger, barbarian or samurai.


I think you should keep going with slayer Pick one weapon and become the King of that. DC villaens live by other rules than PF PCs and in PF deathstroke would only use one weapon since that is the best.
Slade is kind of the best at what he does. And that is the feel you should go with. Use your massive int to get goos skills in everything you want to do and UMD. The UMD can simulate the occational super tech that a good tech villain like deathstroke have. Make maximum use of studied target on the skill Rolls and flaunt you superioity. I would use a two handed weapon and distance my self a little bit from the image of Wilson slade to get a little bit more of the feeling:) and i would make him a Master of the dirty trick maneuver since that is a exelent way to turn the tablet on annoying heroes just like Deathstroke often does when some Teen Titan think he is winning.
Edit: the dirty trick comment is more about the feel of playing a guy that feel superior in PF than how slade use dirty tricks in the comic( we have newer seen him pull Down someones pants) it is a way to get a little narrative power in battle.


Dirty tricks don't come into play much in the campaign I am in. Other than that its a good suggestion. It is nice to stay with one class but multiclassing is fun.


Are their any prestiege classes that would fit Deathstroke well?


Also what kind of gear might best mimic that which arrow Slade used before he became deathstroke? Like his ASIS uniform and stuff.


Ok sounds like multiclassing would be a bad idea.

Dark Archive

Take the Extra Slayer Talent feat twice, selecting rogue talent: firearm training and rogue talent: grit to give you proficiency in guns, amateur gunslinger feat, and any grit feat(I would take blind-fight first as slade is good at that, and it's a prereq for the ricochet shot deed feat which allows you to get sneak attacks with guns at any range) For gear I would say dual sawtooth sabre's, a pistol, a dagger, an adventurer's sash, an eye patch, a battle mask(when you become slade), and for armour/clothes a soldier's uniform combined with a mithril breastplate seems accurate.


Is their a such thing as a silencer in pathfinder? That could cime in handy. Also is their anything even close to a sniper rifle thats an early fire arm?

Scarab Sages

There is oil of silence, which will silence a firearm for an hour.

There is no early sniper rifle, although the double hackbutt come close. it's still short range with a 50' increment, and is not really portable.


I Think a gunslinger could make a good deathstroke. But using guns without being a gunslinger is not that great. A slayer using guns is gonna be behind the gunslinger. And deathstroke shouldent be using weapons that he is only so so in using. His core belive in him self is being the best.


Gwyndrath wrote:
Also is their anything even close to a sniper rifle thats an early fire arm?

If you attach a Far-Reaching Sight onto a double hack-but in conjunction with Sniper Goggles you should be able to replicate the effect.


What exactly does a gunslinger get that couldn't be replicated with feats? Also in Arrow, Slades primary weapon was the sword, guns were his secondary weapon, although he was good with them.


Gwyndrath wrote:
What exactly does a gunslinger get that couldn't be replicated with feats? Also in Arrow, Slades primary weapon was the sword, guns were his secondary weapon, although he was good with them.

You need Lots of feats to replicate the gunslinger class features and you will still miss out on dex to damage and the high level deeds.

So yes you can throw in some 7 feats and be a second grade ranged character.

Dark Archive

Personally I don't think gunslingers are very good for this particular build, the difference is some good deeds for more options with your gun and getting dexterity to damage with your gun are the two non-replicable things with feats. I would grab Pathfinder Unchained when it comes out and ask your DM if you could use variant multiclassing rules with Gunslinger maybe to get the most accurate representation of Slade(give up half your feats, get some gunslinger stuff)


Instead of multiclasding I would need a good solid way to deal damage. I think sneak attack might be a good alternative. What might be some good ways to get dneak attack? I was thinking feinting. On a side note, the feats i now plan to take are:
Feat instead of two traits( my Gm allows that) blind fight
1st: Exotic weapon proficiency Sawetoothe saber
Bonus: Improved unarmed strike
Ranger Combat style: TWF
3rd:Extra Slayer talent: Rogue Talent: firearm training
Slayer talent:Double Slice
5th: Extra Slayer talent: Rogue talent: grit (ricochet shot)
Slayer talen: Ranger combst style: Two weapon feint or rend
7th: quick draw or power attack

Scarab Sages

Sneak attack is awful for ranged attacks unless you have improved invisibility or the ability to see through mist or smoke.


Thats true. What would you suggest as a good d s mage dealing option for this build?


What feat would be the best at 6th level?


Also what kind of armor would be a rough approximation of his Deathstroke suit for when he becomes deathstroke?


So I just finished the 5th level build. Please direct any further suggestions towards planjing for future levels. The final build looks fairly good, I will have to see how well it plays.


Also are their any drawbacks that fit arrow Slades personality? I was thinking maybe pride.

Scarab Sages

It's third party, but One Eye is appropriate.


Sweet looks like this build is done for 5th. As far as this build goes would Two Weapon Feint or Two Weapon Rend be better for a sixth level feat?

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