anyway to get free combat expertise without 13 int?


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title, trying to unlock archon style and the 13 int is standing in my way as a lvl 11 pally/1 monk, any thought on how to get?

thought about just retraining like a mother f***er but that seems bad. I thought about taking a fighter lvl for it but I'm pretty sure you still have to meet the requirements for the fighter "Bonus Feats"

plz help

Grand Lodge

Swashbuckler and Brawler I think can ignore the INT prereq.

Still need a 13 CHA for swash but at least you get panache and FULL bab.

Brawler just ignores the prereq (you are treated as having 13 INT for combat feat prereqs)

Not sure if either dip works for you however.


1 level dip in swashbuckler

"At 1st level, a swashbuckler gains the benefits of the Weapon Finesse feat with light or one-handed piercing melee weapons, and she can use her Charisma score in place of Intelligence as a prerequisite for combat feats. This ability counts as having the Weapon Finesse feat for purposes of meeting feat prerequisites."


Brawler can ignore the Int requirement and I think Swashbuckler can use Cha to qualify.


Lore Warden (Fighter Archetype) 2.

Swashbuckler 1.

Brawler 1.

Those are the only ways I know of.

Lantern Lodge

2 Levels of Fighter (Lore Warden) give you Combat Expertise even if you would not otherwise qualify. And you still get the bonus fighter feats for levels 1 and 2! You lose stuff you probably don't care about, like medium/heavy armor proficiancy and shields.

Silver Crusade Contributor

The lore warden fighter archetype gets it for free at level 2. Might be kind of a heavy dip for you though. :)

There's also retraining into Master of Many Styles, I suppose.

Sovereign Court

if he is going to get another level of something...why not just take a 2nd level of monk and pick archon style without the combat expertise requirement?


The spire defender Magus gets it


thanks for all the quick replies! Eltacolibre I will defintely try that out. though all the responses seem very viable thanks guys!

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