Pathfinder Battles Minis - Need More Adventurers!


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I'm a big fan of the Pathfinder Battles minis. However, I have to say while the monsters are nice, I need far, far fewer of them than I do minis for adventurers & NPCs. Can we get a NPC Codex set or something similar?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

If you look through pretty much *any* thread about minis sets, you'll find people asking for more PC-types and few or no monsters, and you'll find people asking for more monsters and few or no PCs. It's logical, then, that the way to make sure that a set satisfies the most people is to keep a reasonable mix of both—and, it turns out, that logic is backed up in historical sales. You need a pretty good reason to have a set that's all monsters or all adventurers.

Speaking of a good reason to have a set that's all adventurers, have you seen the Iconic Heroes sets?

Sczarni

Vic Wertz wrote:
If you look through pretty much *any* thread about minis sets, you'll find people asking for more PC-types and few or no monsters, and you'll find people asking for more monsters and few or no PCs.

Yup - BPorter, to prove Vic's point, I'm your opposite. As someone who is a collector, I have almost every D&D mini from the beginning through 4th edition.. and then pathfinder battles. That means I have about 1070 unique sculpts of D&D miniatures plus every pathfinder battles miniature to date. If I never get another generic human or elf again it will be too soon. Once you count doubles, I have over 2,000 human or elf miniatures (and that's not counting reaper bones) . Why would I need another one?

Every time I see a human previewed I sigh and think "well there's another spot that could have been used by a monster that has never gotten a miniature, but instead another (insert class) with (insert weapon or spell effect)" Trying to find 'something suitable' for things like tatzlewurms or reefclaws was painful until they came out in miniature form. I mean, how do you find something to put the right mindset into your players when they see a basidirond?

If your party is facing a fighter with an ax or a fighter with a sword..... 90% of the time it will last less then 3 rounds, so as long at it looks martial no one cares.


I happen to agree with Vic. I really don't want a set that is all of anything. I like a good mix of monsters and "NPC/PC" types. While I would love miniatures of many of the NPCs in the codex, that art is wonderful, I really would not want them all at once.


actually want more generic soldier, guards, archers, crossbow...horse dudes
if your doing a lot of urban adventurers........what do you need soldiers and guards

in civilized lands....encounter tables i use have a patrols

at a local keep......soldiers.

just saying......generic men at arms are not be over looked

unique monster.....are ok.......but again to each his own world and adventures......my crew likes normalish monsters.....if its to weird.....they wont fight it....they will seek another cavern

love them for that......means 50 orc war party hunting them down......they are calling me to find out when we play next


Vic Wertz wrote:

If you look through pretty much *any* thread about minis sets, you'll find people asking for more PC-types and few or no monsters, and you'll find people asking for more monsters and few or no PCs. It's logical, then, that the way to make sure that a set satisfies the most people is to keep a reasonable mix of both—and, it turns out, that logic is backed up in historical sales. You need a pretty good reason to have a set that's all monsters or all adventurers.

Speaking of a good reason to have a set that's all adventurers, have you seen the Iconic Heroes sets?

Yep, I've seen the Iconic Heroes. I recognize that an all-or-nothing approach isn't the way anyone would want to go I just thought that the NPC Codex would be a good themed set.

Many of the "humanoid" minis in the sets represent specific individuals, which is cool for running that AP, but given how specific some of those villains are/appear, limits their utility as a general mini.


Cpt_kirstov wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
If you look through pretty much *any* thread about minis sets, you'll find people asking for more PC-types and few or no monsters, and you'll find people asking for more monsters and few or no PCs.

Yup - BPorter, to prove Vic's point, I'm your opposite. As someone who is a collector, I have almost every D&D mini from the beginning through 4th edition.. and then pathfinder battles. That means I have about 1070 unique sculpts of D&D miniatures plus every pathfinder battles miniature to date. If I never get another generic human or elf again it will be too soon. Once you count doubles, I have over 2,000 human or elf miniatures (and that's not counting reaper bones) . Why would I need another one?

Every time I see a human previewed I sigh and think "well there's another spot that could have been used by a monster that has never gotten a miniature, but instead another (insert class) with (insert weapon or spell effect)" Trying to find 'something suitable' for things like tatzlewurms or reefclaws was painful until they came out in miniature form. I mean, how do you find something to put the right mindset into your players when they see a basidirond?

If your party is facing a fighter with an ax or a fighter with a sword..... 90% of the time it will last less then 3 rounds, so as long at it looks martial no one cares.

And that's great... unless you're just starting to collect minis. Also, the "last 3 rounds" argument doesn't hold much water. A rare monster will last just as long and have far less utility and frequency of use.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

BPorter wrote:
I recognize that an all-or-nothing approach isn't the way anyone would want to go I just thought that the NPC Codex would be a good themed set.

I think it *is* safe to say that you'll see characters from the NPC Codex sprinkled into many sets.


Vic Wertz wrote:
BPorter wrote:
I recognize that an all-or-nothing approach isn't the way anyone would want to go I just thought that the NPC Codex would be a good themed set.
I think it *is* safe to say that you'll see characters from the NPC Codex sprinkled into many sets.

Awesome! Thanks!


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I'd agree a mixture is best.

My collection now numbers into the many hundreds of minis and while I don't have Race X, Weapon Y Gender Z for every combination, I've got plenty of "tough guy/gal", "caster guy/gal", "noble guy/gal", "sneaky guy/gal", "ranged guy/gal" etc, etc, etc. These minis all exist. You can already buy them. There are so many adventurers out there that everyone should be possible to represent.

That said, more is always... more.

Monsters, same thing happens. I may not happen to have a dragon with tentacles, or a half-bear goblin treant, or whatever freak-of-the-weak appears on Bestiary 9 page 63, but I've got an awful lot that can represent them.

If your goal is "have one of everything that can be", give up. I'm thousands of dollars in and I still frequently don't have* the "right" mini and settle for close-and-gets-the-impression-needed.

*Or can't remember that I do have it.


Anguish wrote:
My collection now numbers into the many hundreds of minis ..... I'm thousands of dollars in.....

I remember when my collection was that small. ;-)

In all seriousness, even with thousands of minis I still don't have a match for everything in all the monster manuals I own. I gave up on that dream long ago. Now I just look for cool looking and close is good enough. LOL

Silver Crusade Contributor

I've tried to have everything. It's exhausting. :)

I have complete sets of Harbinger, Dragoneye, Archfiends, Giants of Legend, Aberrations, and possibly Deathknell - after that, I didn't like where the minis game was heading, so I scaled back - a little. I still have tons of 3.5 era DDM stuff though; I really enjoyed the skirmish game.

When DDM went to 4e, I scaled back even farther. I still have barely looked at Wizards' new series, since I have very little use for more dragons. There's an angel on the box for the new set though, so I may investigate (hint hint, Paizo).

I've bought a case of every Pathfinder Battles set, and once I scrape together the money, I plan to subscribe properly. I'm missing a few recent promos, but I plan to catch up.

If I have one personal issue with this series, it's: less goblins! I know they're your mascots, but I have so many. I do like where the last set was; the Druid and the Mutant were unique additions. (Plus, as someone who still hasn't run that Path, I like them automatically. More AP-specific models, please!)

Anyway, just my thoughts. :)


I think Erik already said they were scaling back on the goblins.


I want the Bestiary 2-4 Dragons! There are plenty of sculpts out there for Bestiary 1 dragons, but can we get Outer Dragons?

I know Huge Time Dragon or Void dragon ect would be massive hits!


I really liked the dragon sets. I was hoping there would be a blue evolution set (as blue are my favorites...)is there any chance or are the evolution sets dead?

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