Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.

[Jack of Nothing]

So I was kind of digging the idea of an Inquisitor but couldn't really find a deity that matched the alignment I was aiming for (neutral good), gave access to inquisitions/domains that provided fun benefits and stood for something I could have fun really standing for. Now I have heard somewhere that Divine classes can instead of a deity have some sort of ideal they champion instead. Is there a list of acceptable ideas or can I just come up with one? How does this affect my domain/Inquisition choices? Do I lose the weapon proficiency of my deity class ability since I don't have one?

ALSO if not having a deity with a divine class is not PFS legal plz let me know. K THX

[Blakmane]

Unfortunately in PFS you *must* have a deity for classes that request them (Cleric, Paladin and Inquisitor) and cannot choose to champion an ideal.

Remember that your deity can be within one step of your alignment, which opens up your choices a bit.

[Blackbot]

Not having a deity with a divine class is not PFS legal.

Guide do Pathfinder Society Organized Play, p. 10 wrote:

Clerics, inquisitors, paladins, cavaliers of the order of the star, and samurai of the order of the star must choose a deity as all classes in Golarion that receive spells and abilities from a specific divine source receive their powers from a deity. Druids, oracles, and rangers are the exception to this rule.

This is a case of "Yeah, the rulebook states that it can be this way, but in our 'default' setting it does not work like that."

[Jack of Nothing]

Hm, shame. Oh well worth a shot.

[bsctgod]

Cool. My oracle was called on it at a convention for not having a deity. I will have to remember this.

[Blackbot]

The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.

(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )

[BartonOliver]

Just to clarify the one step rule, which sometimes gets confused. If you want to be NG, than you could pick a god with any of the following alignments: LG, NG, CG, or N. (A lot gods however they will require an additional book to the CRB)

[Blackbot]

The Archives of Nethys have a list with all available deities, sorted by alignment.

It also notes where you can find the deities if they're not in the core rules.

[tuypo1]

Blackbot wrote:

The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.

(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )

i got myself a project now im gonna practice until i know the whole thing off by heart

[bsctgod]

This is my PFS Guide! There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My PFS Guide is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.

;-)

[LazarX]

bsctgod wrote:

This is my PFS Guide! There are many like it, but this one is mine.

My PFS Guide is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.

;-)

Until the revised edition comes out next year.

[tuypo1]

oh god i just realized thats going to include the venture captains

i think i will do everything else first then once i have mastered that move onto venture captains

[kinevon]

tuypo1 wrote:

oh god i just realized thats going to include the venture captains

i think i will do everything else first then once i have mastered that move onto venture captains

For real world VCs, you are better off using the web page, rather than the pages in the Guide, since there have been changes...

[tuypo1]

i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update

[LazarX]

tuypo1 wrote:

i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update

Because everything that people want done... takes time in the form of people-hours, of which there is not an infinie supply.

[tuypo1]

makes sense

[Fomsie]

LazarX wrote:

tuypo1 wrote:

i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update

Because everything that people want done... takes time in the form of people-hours, of which there is not an infinie supply.

Well duh! That's what Time Stop is for! lrn2wizard

[Serisan]

Blackbot wrote:

The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.

(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )

Repeat after me: "I am not Drandle Dreng."

[DM Beckett]

Drendle is pretty much the only one I do not hate with a passion. He is more of a tab bit crazy, trickster (as a form of learning) type, where pretty much all the others are arrogant (and very unreservedly so at that) idiots that take the glory for doing nothing and cant even be bothered to be a pleasant person as they hide behind some pseudo-rank.

[TOZ]

Sir Jorsal is best Venture Captain.

I need to work on my portrayal of Valsin to make him less of an ass.

[bdk86]

Blackbot wrote:

The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.

(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )

Bonus points if you do so dressed as Drendle Drang.

[kinevon]

bdk86 wrote:

Blackbot wrote:

The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.

(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )

Bonus points if you do so dressed as Drendle Drang.

Only if you get the hair and beard right.

Extra credit if you have Osprey standing in the background, especially if he has a couple of arrows sticking out...

[rknop]

Blackbot wrote:

(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )

Venture-Captain Dreng? Is that you?

[Kristen Gipson]

tuypo1 wrote:

i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update

Because that list is updated very frequently. It changes pretty close to a weekly basis.

Right now, IT has it setup tp automatically update the organizer page whenever the settings are changed when someone is promoted or resigns as an officer. The list in the back of the guide is something that would have to be updated manually and there are things of higher priority that Paizo makes sure gets done before that.

[rknop]

There's probably something to be said for no longer having the list at the back of the guide, and instead having a prominent page that makes very clear where you find the list online.