Far Strike Monk and the Throwing Enchantment

[blackbloodtroll]

Can a Far Strike Monk Flurry with a weapon with the Throwing enchantment?

[Skylancer4]

Assuming you are already proficient with the weapon you want to throw (the enhancement states the throwing is dependant on being able to use the weapon normally), looks like the rules allow it. You wouldn't be able to throw non monk throwing weapons however as you don't have proficiency with them, so the enhancement wouldn't kick in.

[blackbloodtroll]

Let's say, a Temple Sword, with the Throwing enchantment.

I can't tell by the Far Strike Flurry description, if it meant only weapons that are in the Throwing Fighter Weapon group, or any weapon that can be thrown, not including melee weapons used as improvised thrown weapons.

[Joesi]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Can a Far Strike Monk Flurry with a weapon with the Throwing enchantment?

Elaborate. Do you mean flurry with melee attacks with the throwing weapon? If so, technically the rules from a rules lawyer perspective seem to indicate yes, but RAI is certainly no, and I wouldn't allow it personally.

If you mean ranged, I would think so, but would require something like a blinkback belt and quickdraw.

[Aydin D'Ampfer]

The issue that we are running head long into is that a "Thrown Weapon" is ill-defined. If you go by the Fighter Thrown Weapon group, slings and other clearly ranged weapons are included.

On top of that, to address Skylancer4, the Far Strike Monk gains proficiency with 'all thrown weapons'. The question, extended a bit, is if the monk gains profiency with anything with the Throwing enchantment, as it is now, by some definitions, a Thrown Weapon.

[blackbloodtroll]

I will put this here, for reference:

Ranged Tactics Toolbox wrote:

Flurry of Blows (Ex)

A far strike monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action as long as he's attacking with thrown weapons. He can't make a flurry of blows with his unarmed attacks or any other weapons.

A far strike monk's flurry of blows otherwise functions as the standard monk class feature.

A far strike monk can't use Rapid Shot when making a flurry of blows with a thrown weapon.

This ability alters flurry of blows.

[Game Master]

You'd need multiple temple swords and the ability to draw said swords as a free action, but otherwise, yes, you can.

You could probably pull it off with a blinkback belt, though I can't check the rules text just this second.

[Aydin D'Ampfer]

QuickDraw feat and a Scabbard of Holding (? On phone, can't check name) will allow you to have up to 10 swords at your disposal.

Another question: If the monk picked up Throw Anything, could they then Flurry with anything?

[blackbloodtroll]

He could if he was a Monk of the Empty Hand.

[graystone]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

He could if he was a Monk of the Empty Hand.

I'd say a improvised thrown weapon is a thrown weapon. So I'd say they can flurry with anything that's not a weapon and can be thrown.

[blackbloodtroll]

Yeah, the Flurry write-up for this archetype is not as clear, as I hoped it would be.

[graystone]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Yeah, the Flurry write-up for this archetype is not as clear, as I hoped it would be.

LOL Well that goes without saying since there is no clear definition of thrown weapon and the flurry is build around using them. :P

[Adept_Woodwright]

Or they could possibly use a weapon as an improvised thrown weapon, so long as they accept the (worse) improvised weapon stats. Using the throwing enchantment allows the use of the better weapon stat, and further allows proficiency to matter.