Blarg. Ran out of time to think about/give advice on this. I'm out for the weekend. Good luck! (However, putting him behind a steel door in an underground stone bunker might work to give you more time, via the platform trap door, if you have the time and resources).
Blarg. Ran out of time to think about/give advice on this. I'm out for the weekend. Good luck! (However, putting him behind a steel door in an underground stone bunker might work to give you more time, via the platform trap door, if you have the time and resources).
lol, where's the fun in that?!?!?
we tried all methods to cancel or have his speech and procession radically changed but to no avail.this is it, we have to deal with it.should be a glorious death...............
I still say Major Image.
Has your DM said, "No?"
I still say Major Image.
Has your DM said, "No?"
we are skating a fine line of what we say we may do in his presence. we have out of game been trying to get little nuggets of info...mostly achieved with buying him a beer lol . major image is defiantly on the top of the tactics list. we lost our wizard for this mass battle. our rogue has crazy umd skill though. i was asked by the gm to help him formulate the round by round mass combat rules before we play. it looks like there will be 30 plus combatants on both sides including a cr 11 retriever summoned.
This reeks of Admiral Ackbar.
Ramming a CR11 murder machine through a crowd seems like a terrible way of "acquiring" someone.
It does, however, make a very good distraction.
Seriously, to call that thing (FYI calling is not summoning, protection/evil does absolutely nothing) requires a level 13 wizard/cleric. With that kind of character helping them why do they need to slam a 25 thousand gp abyssal construct into a crowd of onlookers?
The answer could be to tie up most of your security and hopefully reveal any nasty surprises you cook up. The actual attackers will have a much easier time while your security is preoccupied chewing through this thing and it's support. I don't think that thing is even expected to succeed (or survive). If they are resorting to binding help, there are also much better choices (even something like a handful of vrocks would be significantly better). The only advantage a retriever has over other options is that it is not spilling any secrets and won't have enough of a sense of self preservation to run from a battle.
I don't know how it's stats look like using mass combat, but it isn't that tough for a CR 11 - No CC to speak of, it's attack routine is okaish and its SU movement and single SLA is borderline useless in a pitched battle. The only thing I like about it is that it can snipe targets 100 feet away while still engaging targets in melee. The utter lack of effective defensive abilities are going to make pitched battles problematic for it - it can be easily focused down. I don't think killing this thing will be greatly difficult for 30+ combatants unless it has a lot of support (enough to kill the majority of your security without the retriever). That said, you will lose quite a few people to it. You probably won't be in a great shape to respond to something really serious.
Expect the real threat to pop up out of nowhere and probably screw you badly.
This reeks of Admiral Ackbar.
Ramming a CR11 murder machine through a crowd seems like a terrible way of "acquiring" someone.
It does, however, make a very good distraction.
Seriously, to call that thing (FYI calling is not summoning, protection/evil does absolutely nothing) requires a level 13 wizard/cleric. With that kind of character helping them why do they need to slam a 25 thousand gp abyssal construct into a crowd of onlookers?
The answer could be to tie up most of your security and hopefully reveal any nasty surprises you cook up. The actual attackers will have a much easier time while your security is preoccupied chewing through this thing and it's support. I don't think that thing is even expected to succeed (or survive). If they are resorting to binding help, there are also much better choices (even something like a handful of vrocks would be significantly better). The only advantage a retriever has over other options is that it is not spilling any secrets and won't have enough of a sense of self preservation to run from a battle.
I don't know how it's stats look like using mass combat, but it isn't that tough for a CR 11 - No CC to speak of, it's attack routine is okaish and its SU movement and single SLA is borderline useless in a pitched battle. The only thing I like about it is that it can snipe targets 100 feet away while still engaging targets in melee. The utter lack of effective defensive abilities are going to make pitched battles problematic for it - it can be easily focused down. I don't think killing this thing will be greatly difficult for 30+ combatants unless it has a lot of support (enough to kill the majority of your security without the retriever). That said, you will lose quite a few people to it. You probably won't be in a great shape to respond to something really serious.
Expect the real threat to pop up out of nowhere and probably screw you badly.
a few of the pcs agree with the theory that this is a distraction from the main goal. the problem i have is the fact that this is our only concrete lead on what will take place. our gm is known for crazy tricks and unexpected twists. other pcs think that the summoned retriever would never be used toe-to-toe vs the party since it would shred them to bits. time will tell and i'm sure that while the battle is going on, i will be making perception and spellcraft checks to notice anything apart from battle that looks suspicious
Have you figured out which one of your party members is the doppelganger yet?
lol, nope but a few of the npcs (which all treat us like sh#@) may have to be dropped in case they are evil doubles
...a few of the pcs agree with the theory that this is a distraction from the main goal. the problem i have is the fact that this is our only concrete lead on what will take place. our gm is known for crazy tricks and unexpected twists. other pcs think that the summoned retriever would never be used toe-to-toe vs the party since it would shred them to bits. time will tell and i'm sure that while the battle is going on, i will be making perception and spellcraft checks to notice anything apart from battle that looks suspicious
I know you have to try to deal with this thing as is. It is the worst kind of distraction - one that you cannot ignore. Unless you get any better info, the best you can really do is be ready to respond rapidly to new developments. Don't leave your archbishop poorly guarded and exposed unless you absolutely have to, and if you do expect bad things to happen.
This reeks of Admiral Ackbar.
Ramming a CR11 murder machine through a crowd seems like a terrible way of "acquiring" someone.
It does, however, make a very good distraction.
Seriously, to call that thing (FYI calling is not summoning, protection/evil does absolutely nothing) requires a level 13 wizard/cleric. With that kind of character helping them why do they need to slam a 25 thousand gp abyssal construct into a crowd of onlookers?
prot evil not gonna help? ouch...