Ron Lundeen Contributor |
You've got it right. On our second attempt at this, my Feiya hit Omara Culverin on turn 1 while we weren't really prepared and nobody could temporarily close their location (they were at the Sea Fort with no armors in hand). So we lost a lot of time of the blessing deck.
Fortunately, we managed to pull out a win, primarily from spotting Kerdak Bonefist through our spyglass and avoiding his location until we'd cleared everything else out.
Final checks of 50 and 50 (Damiel and Jirelle were both using Ranged) were difficult, but we did it!
Ferrell |
Follow up questions since we are getting ready to play this tomorrow.
1) Since everyone is a villain, if you defeat them their location is automatically closed correct?
2) The phrase on the Adventure card "Kerdak Bonefist is undefeated" has me a bit confused. Does this mean after you encounter the Filthy Lucre he is just shuffled back into the location deck just like a normal bane you failed to defeat?
3) Since there is a Blessings deck I assume you can try again if you run out of time?
Thanks, Wray
Sandslice |
1. Any villain that you defeat still perma-closes its location automatically. This is a general rule, and needs a specific exception which isn't here.
2. What does the rest of the card say?
3. Yes. That's another general rule and would need a specific exception (and I can't think of any that would be fair to the players.)
Ron Lundeen Contributor |
Follow up questions since we are getting ready to play this tomorrow.
1) Since everyone is a villain, if you defeat them their location is automatically closed correct?
2) The phrase on the Adventure card "Kerdak Bonefist is undefeated" has me a bit confused. Does this mean after you encounter the Filthy Lucre he is just shuffled back into the location deck just like a normal bane you failed to defeat?
3) Since there is a Blessings deck I assume you can try again if you run out of time?
Thanks, Wray
1) Yes. We observed that the "When Closing" requirements on the locations really only come into play when temp-closing a location.
2) An undefeated villain pulls blessings off the top of the blessings deck, like usual. Hitting Kerdak Bonefist too many times means your time gets very short. Aggressive scouting to spot Kerdak Bonefist worked best for us.
3) Yes. We had to try three times, and we're pretty good at this game.
Hawkmoon269 |
Be sure to check this similar thread.
Vic has two notes in there, one being that when you don't actually encounter Kerdak Bonefist, even though he is undefeated, you don't loss blessings.
Sandslice |
Perhaps it'd be better if it read:
"When you encounter Kerdak Bonefist, summon and encounter the ship Filthy Lucre, then shuffle Kerdak Bonefist back into the location deck; he is neither defeated nor undefeated."
This avoids possible interactions with evasion, and the confusion of "villain is undefeated."
Ron Lundeen Contributor |
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Perhaps it'd be better if it read:
"When you encounter Kerdak Bonefist, summon and encounter the ship Filthy Lucre, then shuffle Kerdak Bonefist back into the location deck; he is neither defeated nor undefeated."
This avoids possible interactions with evasion, and the confusion of "villain is undefeated."
Certain cards may care whether or not a thing is undefeated. This is a situation where we want to trigger things that care if he is undefeated.