Character Demographics Poll


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Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

Professor X wrote:
Ascalaphus wrote:
I'm intrigued by the alignment distribution for Scarab Sages. The majority is CN, LN or NG.
The alignment distributions for all of the factions are pretty fascinating. Even the fact that the Grand Lodge is so similar to the alignment distribution of the Society as a whole is very interesting.

Well, it's no surprise to see a lot of Good people in the Silver Crusade for example. But in the case of the Scarab Sages, I think this indicates that people are not fully clear on what the Sages are about, alignment-wise. I think the alignment of many of the other factions is less opaque.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 *

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Or maybe some of them are holdovers from the nation based factions.

I made one PC of each faction.

Scarab Sages - LN
Silver Crusade - LG*
Liberty's Edge - NG*
Grand Lodge - LN*
Dark Archives - N
Sovereign Court - N
The Exchange - N

*Has class or deity restriction on alignment.

The Exchange 3/5

Over 400 responses so far, but I'd like to see a few more. If you haven't taken this poll, please do so.

Are there any results you find particularly interesting?

The Exchange 3/5

I added my responses for 5 of my active characters.

The tidbit I found most interesting was the amount of Chaotic Neutral members of the Sovereign Court. There were a fair amount more than I thought.

I doubt however that they are all CN Warpriests of Gorum in the Sovereign Court like my Lord Dunc!

5/5 5/55/55/5

Codanous wrote:

I added my responses for 5 of my active characters.

The tidbit I found most interesting was the amount of Chaotic Neutral members of the Sovereign Court. There were a fair amount more than I thought.

Most sovereign court members are taldans that crossed over. If you're a decadent self serving noble that just wants to maintain their position CN is a perfect alignment fit.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 *

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Personally I can't see how a CN PC functions for long in a group with a motto of "Explore. Report. COOPERATE."

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Michael Hallet wrote:
Personally I can't see how a CN PC functions for long in a group with a motto of "Explore. Report. COOPERATE."

By living up to the explore part by diving into things no sane person would even think to look in and doing the report in interpretive dance format.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 *

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

It's the "cooperate as long as it suits my whims or because purple" that would cause the problem IMO.

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Michael Hallet wrote:
It's the "cooperate as long as it suits my whims or because purple" that would cause the problem IMO.

I think you may be mistaking CN meaning clinically insane rather than one who values freedom and personal expression.

The Exchange 3/5

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Michael Hallet wrote:
It's the "cooperate as long as it suits my whims or because purple" that would cause the problem IMO.

In the instance of my CN Warpriest of Gorum, he cooperates because he knows he can't do it alone, he is aware of his 7 Int, and while he is there to provide support and a strong arm, when it comes to knowing things he ain't so good. So he cooperates because he likes a good fight and if he cooperates the Society keeps sending him on missions and then he gets to keep fighting cool new things or boring old old things, but he is okay cause at least he gets to enjoy a fight.

He also has made friends along the way and despite being Chaotic Neutral that doesn't mean he doesn't have friends. Sure he has made some mistakes along the way, got some evil points, got some good points, but he is there to fight monsters all across the Inner Sea, the Society lets him do that as long as he works with others so he will do what he needs to do for that continue.

He joined the Sovereign Court for the pretty ladies and tea parties.

Grand Lodge 1/5

I never knew how much I needed this poll and it's results until I got this poll and it's results. I found it interesting that, as a bisexual male who leans toward females, I have no heterosexual characters.

Gertie, dash 1:

Life Oracle. Gertie is also very homosexual. Tendai, her long term girlfriend (my girlfriend's character) has male genitalia, but she doesn't mind, because Tendai is also a woman. (Tendai is genderqueer)It's a very loving and pleasant relationship, and all enjoy having them both at tables.

Tofi, dash 2:

Geokineticist. Tofi has kind of Asperger's. She doesn't really get sexual attraction, or most social norms. She became a Pathfinder specifically so she could adventure and earthbend instead of having to be a monk. She's very pretty, though.

Roland, dash 3:

Mysterious Stranger Gunslinger/Divine Hunter Paladin. Roland is bisexual, but leans toward men. He doesn't really do that much, however, because he's a paladin of Abadar and so to relax would be to sway from his duties as THE LAW.

Shia LaBird, dash 4:

Natural Attacker Tengu. Shia LaBird lived alone most of his life, and killed most anyone he found attractive, but his attractive was entirely aesthetic. More "pretty flesh" than "I want that."

Mstislav Iandakovich, dash 5:

Abyssal Bloodrager. Mstislav is literally a raging homosexual. He's also Dark Archive, and very promiscuous. Very fun to roleplay. Wish I got to play him more.

As someone who struggled with their sexuality at a young age, it's hard for me to imagine not contemplating that from character design. Maybe it's just me/my playgroup.

Spoiler:
now to hope none of this violates the paizo messageboards terms of service...

Liberty's Edge 3/5 *

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Robert Hetherington wrote:
Michael Hallet wrote:
It's the "cooperate as long as it suits my whims or because purple" that would cause the problem IMO.
I think you may be mistaking CN meaning clinically insane rather than one who values freedom and personal expression.

Not at all.

"A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last."

That doesn't sound like cooperation unless it is serendipitous.

"He values his own liberty but doesn't strive to protect others' freedom."

He is not good. That is understood.

"He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions."

In other words, I don't care what the VC or those paying him sent us to do. I am going to do what I want.

"A chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy."

But he would sell out the society the moment something more appealing came along.

Silver Crusade

I have a fair number of characters that are asexual just because it doesn't fit into the concept of the character. One character actually doesn't even have those parts anymore (don't ask). I generally don't find it that interesting, to be honest, and plenty of other people are happy to explore that.

That said, I have one male character that is "flexible," but he's private, serious, and doesn't flirt, so it has never come up. I do have a gay female character, but she only has eyes for Iomedae.

Shadow Lodge *

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Come on guys: we're almost over 500 responses! You can do it!

Looking at the results at this moment, there are a couple of things that surprised me:

That the Scarab Sages are the least popular faction.

That there is almost complete Gender equity in the Divine Casting role (based on what I've seen in my area, I would have expected it to be heavily female)

Then there are the things that are interesting but not surprising:

There are almost as many Female Bisexual characters as there are Female Heterosexual characters.

That if you add up the precentages of the Orientations "Asexual" "I don't know" and "I don't care" that they are almost the same between Male and Female (31.7% vs 31.3%) but that within those categories, Female characters are much more likely to be explicitly defined as Asexual (12.5% Male vs 18% Female). The implication - if you make a Female character, you are more likely to know and care about their sexuality.

But the most fascinating to me is still the Alignment by Gender numbers -- especially since they have changed a bit from last time I looked at them.

When you look at the alignment components Lawful, Neutral, and Chaotic:

Males are split evenly: 32.4%, 34.3%, and 33.3%
Females are *heavily* weighted to Chaos: 28%, 30.7%, and 41.3%

Looking at Good vs Neutral:

Males are more likely to be Neutral than Good (52.2% to 47.8%)
Females are less likely to be Neutral than Good (46.7% to 53.4%)

And the Alignment "hole" for Female characters is True Neutral, at only 10.7% (vs 17.3% for Male characters)

For Male characters, the missing alignment is Lawful Good (13.8%) -- every other alignment is between 16% and 18% of Male characters.

Shadow Lodge *

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Oh, and in "things I would like to see"

How about a line graph with Faction by Level. That might give a very rough idea of how faction popularity has changed over time.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/55/5 **

Pathfinder Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

There's no way for me to appropriately communicate that my favorite character is an Occultist from the playtest classes.

The Exchange 3/5

pH unbalanced wrote:

Oh, and in "things I would like to see"

How about a line graph with Faction by Level. That might give a very rough idea of how faction popularity has changed over time.

Done.

I'm not sure if meaningful trends can be gleaned from this chart, but it is there.

The Exchange 3/5

I am reviving this thread because I've made a couple new characters and gotten them to 3 or higher since March. I wanted to re-include this new data.

Silver Crusade 4/5 5/55/55/5 RPG Superstar 2013 Top 8

Is there a way to view our previous responses? I'd like to add some new characters but I'm not sure which characters I've already entered.

The Exchange 3/5

Michael Eshleman wrote:
Is there a way to view our previous responses? I'd like to add some new characters but I'm not sure which characters I've already entered.

There isn't really. The poll did not save any metadata from respondents. That was intentional.

You could look at the Form Responses tab on the Results spreadsheet and take a guess as to which response was yours, but that's about all I can suggest.

This was my first poll using Google. If I ever do another one, I will probably allow participants to revisit their responses.

5/5 5/5 *

Would you like Core Campaign characters included in this or do you plan on a separate poll for them?

The Exchange 3/5

TheFlyingPhoton wrote:
Would you like Core Campaign characters included in this or do you plan on a separate poll for them?

Sure! There's no reason that Core characters can't be included.

The Exchange 3/5

More than 50 new responses today!

The Exchange 3/5

I really like this poll and the corresponding data because even though it doesn't give us the same breath of knowledge that the Pathfinder Society Developer and Campaign staff have it gives us a good idea of what the break down is. One of my favorite tidbits is how the breakdown of alignment by faction is. I had no idea that the Sovereign Court would have a more even spread of alignments than the Grand Lodge.

Just interesting seeing data like this.

Silver Crusade 3/5

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Codanous wrote:
One of my favorite tidbits is how the breakdown of alignment by faction is.

"Boomer still only member of Silver Crusade who Chaotic Neutral!

"Still no see silver..."

4/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Tampere

Hmm. I found my characters in the listing, but there have been some pretty major changes in them since February. Interesting to examine them now, actually.

Shadow Lodge 1/5

Additional questions

How important is a character's race to who they are?

For example, my half orc saw his parents killed for public immorality. My demon spawn tiefling's parents are clerics of Sheyln and she is always battling her primal urges verses her upbringing. My half elf summoner's eidolon started as her imaginary friend, because her human friends kept outgrowing her. Didn't matter to my oracle, or my paladin.

How does Gender define a character?

My half orc is a protective big brother. My bard is a hot girly girl, and has the traits that go with that. My summoner once didn't complete her faction mission because she couldn't do lesbian sex (she tried to close her eyes and think of Andoran, but those Callistra worshipers were....weird).

Basically what questions would go in a follow up poll?

The Exchange

Awsome poll! It interests me that after a few hundred characters the alignments are almost even

The Exchange 4/5

Super interesting thread.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Err... is there any way to see our own previous responses? I think I may have filled this out for some of my PCs back when it was new, but I don't remember. And I don't know how many I did. I wouldn't want to skew the results by answering again with some of the same characters.

EDIT: Nevermind, found them. I responded with 16 PCs when the thread was revived on August 26 of last year. They've changed so much since then, including two complete rebuilds and seven new PCs, that I'd love to have those entries deleted so I can redo all of mine.

4/5

It's too bad that "Psychic Caster" isn't an option. It would be interesting to see how popular the occult classes are becoming.

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