Gaining abilities through other abilities


Rules Questions


If I have the ability to gain an enhancement on an ability I do not have, will it grant me that ability?

Example: An exploiter wizard does not gain the consume spells ability, but the Swift Consume exploit allows me to use that class feature as a swift action. Could I take this exploit and use it?


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I'm pretty sure you need the class feature before you can take a feat to alter it. Else the feat accomplishes nothing as you do not have the class feature to use it with.


But it isn't a feat, it's the class feature of the exploiter wizard allowing me to gain exploits.

This particular exploit happens to alter a class feature.

Could be, the devs overlooked it, or ought to have included consume spells in the exploiter wizard.


It allows you to do the consume magic item as a swift, since you don't have the consume spells class feature, this just changes the time it takes to do it, not giving you the ability.


Chess Pwn wrote:
It allows you to do the consume magic item as a swift, since you don't have the consume spells class feature, this just changes the time it takes to do it, not giving you the ability.

This.


When you have an archetype that copies some features of another class but not all of them, some abilities of the base class become unusable or much less useful. An exploiter wizard doesn't have Consume Spells so Swift Consume does nothing. Choose a different exploit.

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