Shield Snag + Buckler Catch


Rules Questions


Shield Snag (Magical Marketplace):
You know how to navigate your shield around weapons and can use it to keep your balance.

Prerequisites: Improved Shield Bash, Shield Proficiency, Two-Weapon Fighting, base attack bonus +6.

Benefit: Any opponents hit by your shield bash are also targeted by a free disarm attempt, substituting your attack roll for the combat maneuver check. This disarm attempt does not provoke an attack of opportunity. You cannot use this ability during the same round as a bull rush attempt made with Shield Slam or with any other abilities that affect how your shield bash works.

When using a shield, you gain a +4 bonus on Strength checks to avoid being blown away by a strong wind and on Climb checks to catch yourself on a wall or slope when falling.

Buckler Catch (Rondolero Duelist Archetype, Inner Sea Primer):
Buckler Catch (Ex): At 3rd level, a rondelero can catch his opponent’s weapon between his buckler and his forearm, effectively wedging the hafts of polearms and hammers or the flats of blades. This functions as a disarm combat maneuver, and the rondelero gains a +4 bonus on the roll. If the rondelero’s attack fails by 10 or more, he suffers a –2 penalty to his AC until the start of his next turn. This ability replaces armor training 1.

So... How do these two interact exactly? Would you get Buckler Catch's +4 on Shield Snag's free Disarm attempt?

Also, what action is Buckler Catch? Same as a standard disarm?


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Buckler Catch requires you to be using a buckler.
Shield Snag requires you to make a shield bash.
You can't (normally) shield bash with a buckler (barring some special ability), so they don't (usually) work together.

I'd swear I remember there's some way to bash with a buckler, but I can't find it ATM.


SlimGauge wrote:

Buckler Catch requires you to be using a buckler.

Shield Snag requires you to make a shield bash.
You can't (normally) shield bash with a buckler (barring some special ability), so they don't (usually) work together.

I'd swear I remember there's some way to bash with a buckler, but I can't find it ATM.

Rondolero Duelist 2nd level ability.

Buckler Bash (Ex): At 2nd level, a rondelero can perform a shield bash with a buckler (use the same damage and critical modifier as for a light shield). This ability replaces bravery.

Inner sea primer pg 25


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

I knew there was a way to bash with a buckler.

I don't think these two interact, because they're invoked differently. The first is invoked by performing a (successful) shield bash,
The second is just an "improved" disarm. It uses the same action as a disarm, but you get your +4.

You don't get the +4 on the shield slam, because the resulting free disarm is not a buckler catch.

Of course, I could be wrong.

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