Is that armor flying?

[Lincoln Cross]

In my upcoming Wrath of the Righteous game I plan to take the legendary item abilities. I want to make some amazing armor and have a couple questions.

1. I would like to add wings of flying to my armor. Is there any precedent for this anywhere?

2. I want to take the returning ability and call the armor to me, actually donning it. Is this possibly by RAW any way? if not is it absurd to ask for?

Thank you all.

[Elicoor]

By RAW... It'll always be DM fiat, when you try to go into the realm of custom magic items.

1.
Wings of flying is a cloak ability. So if you want to add it to an armor... you'll have to pay. Much more than it should.

You'd have better luck trying to add Wings of Flying on another shoulder slot item.

2.
You might want to talk about the Called weapon property. And by raw, it doesnt work. But there's a spell allowing you to don your armor instantaneously, and a slotless item that allows you to don it on command (standard)

[Lincoln Cross]

1. I am fine with paying. Question is, by RAW is it possible to add it to armor instead of a shoulder slot item since it is a wondrous item?

2. I'm referring to the returning ability of legendary items in mythic adventures. It says the item returns to your hand. I really just want the visual effect of it returning and surrounding me 'donning it'.

[Elicoor]

1. By RAW, you're not supposed to get a cloak effect on ANYTHING if it's not a cloak... But as the rules tell, it's DM fiat. It's the realm of custom MIs. Try looking at existing armors with flying properties on them if you want to get some pricing idea. But it'll be up to your DM to accept the custom item.

2. I just read the property. It clearly says in hand, so by RAW, you cannot power rangers into your mythic armor. It teleports in your hand... and you spend a few minutes trying to don hastily your armor in the midst of the fight...

[Kchaka]

RAW doesn't specifically says exactly how much it costs to place an ability from one slot into a different slot, and I can't remember where it suggests how much it should cost.

What it does say is that:

To add a 2nd ability to a magic item of the same slot, you basically pay it's price of the ability x1.5 (but it isn't exactly like that, the math can get a little complicated depending on the price of the abilities).

It costs twice as much to have an magic item that uses no slot, like an Ioun Stone or a Stone of Good Luck.

Adding wings of flying to a piece of armor should cost less than what it would cost to make it an ability that uses no slot. An ability that's simply placed on a stone that you carry in your pocket and still works can be freely passed around between any player/creature, independent of what magic items they are already using. That's why the price for "no-slot" is twice as much. An additional ability that's placed on a item can only be used when you are wearing that item, and if you happen to find another item of the same slot with some other ability you'll have to choose which set of abilities you'll be using at a time, different from abilities with no-slot, that all can be used simultaneously and in any combination.

Well, in the end, since you want to add a "returning" property that doesn't seem to exist yet, RAW should not be a main concern. The cost of a returning property should depend on what you want to do with it. If you want to use it to be able to switch armors in the middle of battle, then it should cost alot. If you just want a cool way to don the armor, then it should cost little more than the price of a armor you don't need to chance, that you can sleep with and won't give you any penalties (Confort Armor, 5.000g in PFS, I think).

The flying part, you could just say that the armor is like two items into one, armor + cloak. If you wear another clock, then you can't use the cloak infused on the armor. As long as you don't wear another cloak, the armor will give you the flyng ability and the standard +5 protection enhancement bonus on saves.

Here's 3 types of flying properties you could use as guide lines:

Wings of Flying, work all the time at-will, 54.000g

Celestial Armor, command word(standard action) 5 min, once per day, ??? (16.000g /3 ?)

Winged Boots, command word(standard action) 5 min, 3 times per day, 16.000g