As with most things my tastes change... BUT for the most part I prefer a more serious game over a big joke game. I mean I love humor as much as the next girl but I do want the theme to remain serious in a campaign. Now one shots are a whole different story, feel free to ham it up in a less than serious one shot as much as the rest of the players want to. Even there I would stop it if it was ruining peoples fun... like too much Monty Python in a game that is supposed to be Gothic Horror in theme as an example.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
If it weren't for the humor on the part of the player/PC I think it would be pretty dull. Humor has its place, as does a more serious tone.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
If it weren't for the humor on the part of the player/PC I think it would be pretty dull. Humor has its place, as does a more serious tone.
Definitely agreed. When I say that I prefer a more serious game, I don't mean no humour, I mean that I'd prefer it to not be the primary focus of the game... and that people don't randomly break into Monty Python quote fests. I love Monty Python, always have, always will, but there's nothing that'll kill the mood of a serious and important moment of plot than everyone suddenly bursting into the Camelot song.
| 4 people marked this as a favorite. |
So, in trying to follow this thread, I just watched half a dozen Monty Python clips on YouTube.
Does anyone know how I can unsee those?
A better question would be why would you want to unsee them?
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
If we banned humor there'd be no quotes like "I was bitten by a radioactive Jesus. That's why I'm the cleric."
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I like humor; and am guilty of getting into a flurry of bardic jokes
Sometimes, especially in dire moments, I DO like when people can appreciate the projected air of severity, but I have to expect witty banter; it comes with the territory, and I've done it during the wrong moments myself.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Ah, I see the point of the humor has been entirely lost on you. This is not uncommon for first exposures.
There is a certain absurdity associated with the Monty Python crew and their skits. Not all of their stuff is good or even funny. But that particular film, if you are willing to accept the absurdity represented, is golden.
You saw nothing but clips, hence it's lost on you.
You need to see the film.
So is this where I say; "Nope, too perilous"?
I have of course heard many of the one-offs before from various folks under gaming and, at least one, non-gaming setting. Just not in the context of the film proper.
It is, of course, entirely up to you, but you'll go on not getting it only because it doesn't make sense out of context. Once the context is acquired, however, it becomes irrelevant whether or not the quotes are given out of context, because everyone has a shared context within which they can enjoy.
In effect, it becomes a really, really large shared private joke, except the "private" joke is "just between you and everyone that watched the movie" because, when peering at it from the outside (as with many private jokes) the humor just comes off as impenetrable and weird.
Similarly, The Princess Bride makes far less sense out of context and without viewing the whole thing.
Seeing clips doesn't do much because you can't get a whole picture. Once you have the whole picture, you need nothing but the clips to enjoy it all again.
All that said, ultimately people have different tastes in humor. It won't be for everyone, and might not be for you. It is, however, nearly impossible to get for someone who's on the "outside" as it were.
One thing that I've found is that the film, while humorous, made me smile more than laugh. Upon repetition, however, the lines grow funnier and better with time and shared enjoyment.
This is another element of being on the outside - it's a very hard concept to get across.
The film is "golden" not so much because it's an amazing film (though the absurdity of it all can, in fact, be "amazing" in its own way), but rather because of the way it grows on you, and the way the humor matures within those who've seen it.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
So is this where I say; "Nope, too perilous"?
I have of course heard many of the one-offs before from various folks under gaming and, at least one, non-gaming setting. Just not in the context of the film proper.
It is, of course, entirely up to you, but you'll go on not getting it only because it doesn't make sense out of context. Once the context is acquired, however, it becomes irrelevant whether or not the quotes are given out of context, because everyone has a shared context within which they can enjoy.
In effect, it becomes a really, really large shared private joke, except the "private" joke is "just between you and everyone that watched the movie" because, when peering at it from the outside (as with many private jokes) the humor just comes off as impenetrable and weird.
Similarly, The Princess Bride makes far less sense out of context and without viewing the whole thing.
Seeing clips doesn't do much because you can't get a whole picture. Once you have the whole picture, you need nothing but the clips to enjoy it all again.
All that said, ultimately people have different tastes in humor. It won't be for everyone, and might not be for you. It is, however, nearly impossible to get for someone who's on the "outside" as it were.
One thing that I've found is that the film, while humorous, made me smile more than laugh. Upon repetition, however, the lines grow funnier and better with time and shared enjoyment.
This is another element of being on the outside - it's a very hard concept to get across.
The film is "golden" not so much because it's an amazing film (though the absurdity of it all can, in fact, be "amazing" in its own way), but rather because of the way it grows on you, and the way the humor matures within those who've seen it.
Yeah the reaction suddenly makes a lot more sense to me. Not to say that you'll definitely enjoy the film, I know a lot of people who don't like Monty Python in general (I on the other hand love it, which is why I own Monty Python's Big Yellow Box, containing the entire Flying Circus TV show, the Hollywood Bowl live show, and all four films), but you'll definitely understand the humour a lot more once you have the context of the film. What is possibly one of my favourite scenes of all time is actually the end of that film, which despite it's age I'll put in spoilers:
The Pythons were always known for their absurdist/surrealist humour. They also used some surreal animation done by Terry Gilliam (who you may know as the director of Brazil, Jabberwocky, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Time Bandits, The Fisher King, 12 Monkeys, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Tideland, The Zero Theorem and The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus).
That said, if you don't absurdist humour that lacks explanation or context, I'd recommend not watching Monty Python's Flying Circus, or the film And Now For Something Completely Different (which is made up of the group's favourite skits from the show, refilmed and loosely connected by various framing devices). However The Holy Grail and The Life of Brian both have an actual storyline, so you may find them more enjoyable. The Meaning of Life doesn't really have a story, but is presented more as a series of skits about the various stages of life in an almost documentary fashion. So there's context, but not really a story, so YMMV with that one.
And of course at least 95% of the Monty Python quotes you're going to hear from gamers will be from The Holy Grail, with most of the rest coming from The Life of Brian.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Ah, I see the point of the humor has been entirely lost on you. This is not uncommon for first exposures.
There is a certain absurdity associated with the Monty Python crew and their skits. Not all of their stuff is good or even funny. But that particular film, if you are willing to accept the absurdity represented, is golden.
You saw nothing but clips, hence it's lost on you.
You need to see the film.
I'd argue the bolded part, but I was raised on their show and films, so to me it's all good :P
I'd argue the bolded part, but I was raised on their show and films, so to me it's all good :PAh, I see the point of the humor has been entirely lost on you. This is not uncommon for first exposures.
There is a certain absurdity associated with the Monty Python crew and their skits. Not all of their stuff is good or even funny. But that particular film, if you are willing to accept the absurdity represented, is golden.
You saw nothing but clips, hence it's lost on you.
You need to see the film.
True enough! As I noted a bit later:
All that said, ultimately people have different tastes in humor. It won't be for everyone, and might not be for you. It is, however, nearly impossible to get for someone who's on the "outside" as it were.
:D
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
An anime haiku summarizing my gaming tone tastes.
Sometimes it's like Gantz,
Or Record of Lodoss War.
Sometimes it's Slayers.
If we banned humor there'd be no quotes like "I was bitten by a radioactive Jesus. That's why I'm the cleric."
See, because of SJGames and TransHuman Space, I'm not allowed to discuss any form of Jesi, due to an incident involving Talking Sapient Jesus-Flavored Edible Underwear.
| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
