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Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

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I've noticed a lot of questions are being asked that have been answered before. I've gone ahead and compiled questions and their answers so that way people don't have to dig through various comment sections and can check here first.

Player/Character Creation Questions

I have a character who was built only using core rules but played in the regular campaign. Can I turn that character into a Core campaign character?

Michael Brock wrote:
Because you have existing mode Chrinicle sheets, and it was reported as an existing mode character, you would be unable to play that character in Core mode.

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Can I rebuild my regular PFS character into a CORE campaign character using the level 1 retraining rules?

Michael Brock wrote:
No. You can't rebuild a Core character using Chronicle sheets obtained from an existing campaign reported scenario.

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Are traits or options that are not legal in the regular campaign legal in CORE? For example, crafting feats, Rich Parents, Hedge Magician, and Natural-Born Leader?

Michael Brock wrote:
No.

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What are my available options for summon spells, wild shape, or other options that require a bestiary?

Michael Brock wrote:
If an entry, such as paladin or ranger, that lists a bonded mount or animal companions and it doesn't list stats in the CRB, it automatically defaults to the Bestiary [1].

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Michael Brock wrote:
If a CRB option advises that something found in the CRB is clarified in the Bestiary, then the player uses that specific option out of the Bestiary to meet the requirement set forth in the CRB.

x

Michael Brock wrote:
Just Bestiary 1.

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Can I make a character using always available, non-core races, such as a Kitsune during Season 6?

Michael Brock wrote:
Only races in the Core Rulebook may be chosen at character creation.

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Can I use a boon that opens up limited races to make a character of that race in the CORE campaign?

Michael Brock wrote:
No.

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Can I use the races in the Inner Sea World guide to choose where my character comes from for roleplay purposes? Can I worship a non-Core deity if I'm not receiving mechanical benefits (like a cleric or paladin would)?

Michael Brock wrote:

You can name your character whatever you like. You can also be a Shaonti warrior for roleplay purposes. You just can't get any mechanical benefits from choosing Shaonti warrior from a book outside of core. As a matter of fact, your character can utilize any of the countries in the Inner Sea World Guide for RP flavor. They just can't take any of the mechanical options from the ISWG unless it appears on a Chronicle (or when we update the Guide if we add languages and the like).

That's similar to what exist now without a sourcebook. I've had a character at a table I GMed that claimed he was from Arcadia. He had absolutely no mechanical benefits from it and it was strictly roleplay flavor, but he advised his character was from Arcadia. The same applies when someone says their character is royalty or a Blakros family member and the like. If something is taken for fluff only, and strictly roleplay purposes, you can use any of the source material. You just can't take any mechanical benefit from it.

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Boons/Chronicle Sheet Unlocks

A chronicle sheet opens up an option not normally available in the regular campaign. If I earn this boon in the CORE campaign, can I use it?

Quote:
Yes, as long as you follow the specifications on the boon.

If a wizard finds a scroll of a non-core spell on a chronicle, can be scribe it into his spell book? How about if he finds an NPC's spell book?

Michael Brock wrote:

Yes. It's on a Chonicle. See the bullet points in the blog.

As for scribing from a NPC found spell book, yes as long as the GM notes it on the Chronicle.

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I have a boon that allows me access to a feat or an archetype not in the Core Sources. Can I make a character using that option?

Michael Brock wrote:
As long as you bring the required reference books, yes.

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Are boons found on chronicle sheets cross-campaign? Or are they campaign specific? (Such as allowing all characters a player has to access a limited resource, or allowing players to take an option not normally allowed - can I earn the boon in one campaign and apply it to another?)

Michael Brock wrote:
Campaign specific.

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If I get something outside of the core unlocked for my character, do I still need to own the book it comes from?

Michael Brock wrote:
Yes

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I have a boon that gives me access to an archetype that gives bonus teamwork feats. Does this mean the teamwork feats are also available?

Michael Brock wrote:
No

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GM/Organizer Questions

Can Core campaign and regular PFS characters sit at the same table?

Michael Brock wrote:
No, the reporting system cant handle a mix. It was the only downside of this initiative and one I can live with.

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Can a multi-table special event such as 'Legacy of the Stonelords' mix core and non-core tables?

Michael Brock wrote:

Yes and what we are planning for at Gen Con. As long as the table is all core or all existing mode, every table can participate in the same special.

For instance, my initial plan at Gen Con is to have 150 tables of existing mode and 40-50 tables of Core mode for the Season 7 special.

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What pregens may I use when running CORE games?

Quote:
Only the pregens of classes found in the Core Rule Book are legal for use in the CORE campaign. These are legal even if they contain non-core material.

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Can I choose which campaign my GM credit applies to? For example, if I run a core campaign game, can I apply the chronicle to a regular PFS character?

Michael Brock wrote:
You receive a Core Chrinicle if you GM a core game. You receive an existing mode chronicle if you GM an existing mode game. If you place an existing GM credit chronicle on a core character, it then defaults to existing mode character and is no longer a core character.

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How should I mark chronicles for the CORE campaign? Will there be a check box?

Michael Brock wrote:

Eventually for new scenarios. Until then, the GM can write "CORE" at the top of the Chronicle.

As for old scenarios, we won't be going back and adding it.

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The scenario I'm running uses materials outside the core. What do I do?

Michael Brock wrote:
The GM still utilizes those options.

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Can I use a boon that opens up limited races to make a character of that race in the CORE campaign?

Michael Brock wrote:
No.

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Thanks for this, Rigby! Well done!

Dark Archive **** Venture-Agent aka melferburque

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since silverhex is used only with pre-gens, is there any reason a silverhex chronicle sheet can't be applied to a CORE character?

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

melferburque wrote:
since silverhex is used only with pre-gens, is there any reason a silverhex chronicle sheet can't be applied to a CORE character?

I've seen nothing to indicate that Silverhex can't be done as a CORE game. You will just have to play it with the CRB pregens. May I recommend an all-Harsk party?

This, of course, barring other rulings by campaign leadership.

*****

It has to be a Core pre-gen. Not all of them are.

Edit: Ninja'd!

***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Chicago aka thunderspirit

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Rigby Bendele wrote:
May I recommend an all-Harsk party?

Now THAT'S playing on Hard Mode.

Dark Archive **** Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Twin Cities Metro South

Mike commented on on Silverhex Chronicles counting

Michael Brock wrote:
DubiousYak wrote:

I GMed two sessions of the Silverhex Chronicles for my brother, his wife and their 3 kids. They have not made any characters yet, can they just apply all the sheets from SHC and make PFS Core characters? I feel Core is pefect for them as hundreds of dollars in books is not high on the family budget.

I'd hate to to have to rerun those for them so I'm hoping there is a chance that they can use those chronicles to make Core characters.

Yes

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lh0h&page=6?Introducing-the-Core-C ampaign#262

Sczarni *****

Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Andrew Torgerud wrote:
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lh0h&page=6?Introducing-the- Core-Campaign#262

Linkified

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

Thank you for finding that!

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

Also, another question I saw asked in a larger thread today:

What content can I run in the CORE Campaign?

Quote:
The CORE Campaign uses Pathfinder Society sanctioned play options, including any scenarios, sanctioned modules or AP legs. The only difference between core mode and regular mode is the available options for character creation.

**** Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Seattle aka Gwen Smith

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Archives of Nethys has a "Source" filter that lists only those items from the selected source. Here is the link to the Core Rulebook source list. If you click on an item, PFS-legal options have a symbol of the open road icon next to the title.

Note: a few of the complete source lists, like the Barbarian rage powers, are on a single page, so a link from the core list can show some non-core items on the final list. However, the source for each item is clearly displayed at the top of the item, and you can search the final page (Ctrl-F to open a "search on this page" box in most browsers) for "Core" to skip any non-core items.

Shadow Lodge

I have been using Hero Lab to plan out my characters for a while now, and I'm in the process of creating one right now. For some reason, when I tick the box that restricts the options to Pathfinder Society Core Campaign, I cannot choose a deity for my character to worship. It says 'This selection is not available for Pathfinder Society Core Campaign characters'.

Is there a reason for this? It doesn't allow deities for clerics either, which I find weird. Since deities are in the Core Rulebook, I can't see why they are not allowed. The only reason that perhaps comes to mind are favored weapons. Is this a bug or are deities really (mechanically) forbidden in Core Campaign?

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

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Dorothy, thanks for that! I'm going to have look through it myself this evening.

I'm not sure what's going on with Hero Lab; I highly recommend submitting a bug report.

You can definitely worship a deity! CRB deities are allowed for any character to worship under the normal rules (regarding alignment, etc). You can even say that your character worships a non-core deity if they aren't getting any mechanical advantage from it.

Liberty's Edge **** Venture-Captain, Indiana—Indianapolis

Adzh wrote:

I have been using Hero Lab to plan out my characters for a while now, and I'm in the process of creating one right now. For some reason, when I tick the box that restricts the options to Pathfinder Society Core Campaign, I cannot choose a deity for my character to worship. It says 'This selection is not available for Pathfinder Society Core Campaign characters'.

Is there a reason for this? It doesn't allow deities for clerics either, which I find weird. Since deities are in the Core Rulebook, I can't see why they are not allowed. The only reason that perhaps comes to mind are favored weapons. Is this a bug or are deities really (mechanically) forbidden in Core Campaign?

The CRB deities are generally legal (pending some restrictions, I am sure.) This is clearly a problem on HL's end, and I submitted a bug report for it the other day. :)

Shadow Lodge

Ah, good. I hope it all gets sorted out then :)

Liberty's Edge **** Venture-Captain, Indiana—Indianapolis

FYI - heard back from Lone Wolf, and they said it (the issue with CRB deities not being available to characters) has been taken care of and will be in the next update.

Liberty's Edge **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Just want to clarify, the race boons from chronicle sheets includes convention boons and the like as well, correct?

So if someone had a boon to play a Sylph it is still not allowed in Core play?

Grand Lodge ****

Correct. No race boons are allowed in Core.

Liberty's Edge **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Awesome, thanks Jeff.

Sczarni *****

Starfinder Charter Superscriber

There's one exception to that, though.

If you can muster up one of the earlier specials (you'd need 5 tables), and complete the higher tier of that special with a Core PC, you'd earn a boon on that scenario's Chronicle Sheet that opens up an exotic race.

Just like several other scenarios that open up new character options, that should still be a legal way to create a non-Core race in the Core Campaign (akin to making a Thassilonian Specialist by playing another certain scenario, which Mike already clarified was legal).

But, this is obviously something that very few (if any) players would be able to achieve (and it wouldn't be anytime soon, either).

Grand Lodge ****

That's not correct, Nefreet. From the blog post:

Quote:
At no time may any trait, feat, equipment, magic item, skill, animal companion, familiar, or any other character option come from a source beyond these three resources unless it appears on a Chronicle sheet. Race boons found on Chronicle sheets may not be used in the Core Campaign.

It doesn't say "Race boons found on Chronicle sheets other than scenario chronicle sheets may not be used in the Core Campaign."

The Exchange ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Belafon

Nefreet wrote:

There's one exception to that, though.

If you can muster up one of the earlier specials (you'd need 5 tables), and complete the higher tier of that special with a Core PC, you'd earn a boon on that scenario's Chronicle Sheet that opens up an exotic race.

Just like several other scenarios that open up new character options, that should still be a legal way to create a non-Core race in the Core Campaign (akin to making a Thassilonian Specialist by playing another certain scenario, which Mike already clarified was legal).

But, this is obviously something that very few (if any) players would be able to achieve (and it wouldn't be anytime soon, either).

OK, I give up. I've played (and GMed) YotSL, BUA, Race, Siege, and Legacy and it's not on any of these. Are you talking about something from the Grand Convocation?

(Still not Core legal, just curious.)

Liberty's Edge *****

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Nefreet wrote:

There's one exception to that, though.

If you can muster up one of the earlier specials (you'd need 5 tables), and complete the higher tier of that special with a Core PC, you'd earn a boon on that scenario's Chronicle Sheet that opens up an exotic race.

Just like several other scenarios that open up new character options, that should still be a legal way to create a non-Core race in the Core Campaign (akin to making a Thassilonian Specialist by playing another certain scenario, which Mike already clarified was legal).

But, this is obviously something that very few (if any) players would be able to achieve (and it wouldn't be anytime soon, either).

The only special to date, that I'm aware of, that does this, is The Grand Convocation 2012 at PaizoCon 2012. And as far as I'm aware, you had to play or GM at the highest Tier (forget if it was 10-11 or if it had a Seeker Tier) to get the boon.

And as far as I know, this special will never be run again.

Shadow Lodge ***** Regional Venture-Coordinator, Northwest aka WalterGM

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Yeah, that was at PaizoCon (and PaizoCon UK?) 2012. There were two tables of high tier run at the US event. I ran one of them for a handful of 12+ PCs.

The race boon gained was a

Spoiler:
fetchling

I still haven't used mine...

Sczarni *****

Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Jeff Merola wrote:

That's not correct, Nefreet. From the blog post:

Quote:
At no time may any trait, feat, equipment, magic item, skill, animal companion, familiar, or any other character option come from a source beyond these three resources unless it appears on a Chronicle sheet. Race boons found on Chronicle sheets may not be used in the Core Campaign.
It doesn't say "Race boons found on Chronicle sheets other than scenario chronicle sheets may not be used in the Core Campaign."

I suppose that's one interpretation.

There was a mess of confusion surrounding the very words "Chronicle Sheet" when the blog was released, and again during the several hundred posts that immediately followed.

Still, as I said, it's highly unlikely (probably improbable) anyone would ever be able to muster such an event again.

Sczarni *****

Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Andrew Christian wrote:
Nefreet wrote:

There's one exception to that, though.

If you can muster up one of the earlier specials (you'd need 5 tables), and complete the higher tier of that special with a Core PC, you'd earn a boon on that scenario's Chronicle Sheet that opens up an exotic race.

Just like several other scenarios that open up new character options, that should still be a legal way to create a non-Core race in the Core Campaign (akin to making a Thassilonian Specialist by playing another certain scenario, which Mike already clarified was legal).

But, this is obviously something that very few (if any) players would be able to achieve (and it wouldn't be anytime soon, either).

The only special to date, that I'm aware of, that does this, is The Grand Convocation 2012 at PaizoCon 2012. And as far as I'm aware, you had to play or GM at the highest Tier (forget if it was 10-11 or if it had a Seeker Tier) to get the boon.

Yes.

I was avoiding calling out the specific scenario, as it's considered bad form, generally, to do so.

Liberty's Edge *

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

That one is an exception as it can't be downloaded and will never be played again, I think. I could be wrong on that

Shadow Lodge ***** Regional Venture-Coordinator, Northwest aka WalterGM

Nefreet wrote:
Still, as I said, it's highly unlikely (probably improbable) anyone would ever be able to muster such an event again.

It was a one shot event that isn't even downloadable to VCs anymore. I doubt it's legal to be run ever again.

Grand Lodge *

If I buy a wayfinder (multiple scenarios unlock this, including a certain recent repeatable) and put an Ioun Stone in it, do I get it's resonant powers?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Subscriber

Resonant powers are not core, so no.

Also wayfinders are always available per the Guide (page 23 and 27).

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

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What languages are available to CORE characters? What languages do humans get as ethnic languages?

Blog Post Said wrote:

In addition to the core rulebook languages, these languages are also available:

Modern Human Languages

    Hallit (Kellid)
    Kelish (Kelishite)
    Osiriani (Garundi)
    Polyglot (Mwangi)
    Shadowtongue
    Shoanti (Shoanti)
    Skald (Ulfen)
    Tien (Tian)
    Varisian (Varisian)
    Vudrani (Vundrani)

Ancient Languages

    Ancient Osiriani
    Azlanti
    Cyclops
    Jistka
    Tekritanin
    Thassilonian

Other Languages

    Necril
    Orvian

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Grand Lodge ** RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Maybe I overlooked the answer, but how does Core interact with playing APs and long-form modules (like Dragon's Demand) in campaign mode? Can I use the chronicles from a "campaign mode" Dragon's Demand game to create a Core character? With "campaign mode" being so disconnected from PFS rules, I'd think it would be fine, but I dunno.

Grand Lodge ****

Jiggy wrote:
Maybe I overlooked the answer, but how does Core interact with playing APs and long-form modules (like Dragon's Demand) in campaign mode? Can I use the chronicles from a "campaign mode" Dragon's Demand game to create a Core character? With "campaign mode" being so disconnected from PFS rules, I'd think it would be fine, but I dunno.

I don't think Mike ever gave an answer, but a couple of VLs (who I assume had asked back when it was on the VL only board) said that it was fine (and Mike never corrected them).

****

are core class archetypes allowed in CORE?

*****

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If they are in the Core Rulebook, the Guide to Organized Play, or the Free Traits pdf then yes.

Short Answer:
No.

Grand Lodge **** Venture-Agent, Nevada—Las Vegas aka kinevon

qwerty1971 wrote:
are core class archetypes allowed in CORE?

No, unless they get unlocked on a chronicle, as there are no archetypes in any of the Core Mode resources.

@Jiggy: I would assume that you can report a campaign mode AP or multi-chronicle module in either Core tr Standard mode, and the GM and players would get chronicles as appropriate (plain or marked Core).

I actually brought this up last session of my RotRL game, as we haven't reached the first sanctioned section yet, so we still have the option of getting Core or Standard chronicles for the AP. Given where we are, I gave my players time to mull their decision over.

If I understand it correctly, though, it is still going to have to be all Core or all Standard, not a mixed bag. Which is also why I wanted to give my players plenty of time to think it over, rather than going, "Okay, we have completed the first sanctioned section, you all get a PFS chronicle to apply to one of your PFS PCs. Did you want this as Core or Standard mode?" at the end of the sanctioned area....

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

There's been no official guidance on campaign mode games. I personally won't be doing any core campaign mode, but I don't see something preventing you from doing so, since there's no formal difference from reporting campaign vs PFS mode. Do keep in mind the "no mixed tables" restriction. This, of course, is merely my opinion.

***** Venture-Lieutenant, New Hampshire—Concord aka D_GENNEXT

The question that I have is this:
If I play or run, say We Be Goblins! and apply it to a character that has yet to be built, can I make the character CORE or does it have to be existing mode?

Follow up:
When running and I apply GM credit to a character that has yet to be built, can the character be made CORE if the table I ran was not?

The Exchange ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Belafon

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Jason Avery wrote:

The question that I have is this:

If I play or run, say We Be Goblins! and apply it to a character that has yet to be built, can I make the character CORE or does it have to be existing mode?

It can be Core if:

a) The character does not have any other non-Core chronicles assigned to it. (Not an issue for a brand new character, but can be a problem for characters with one or two GM credits already applied.
b) All other characters receiving credit from the table meet requirement a).
c) The table is reported as Core.

Quote:

Follow up:

When running and I apply GM credit to a character that has yet to be built, can the character be made CORE if the table I ran was not?

No. A table must be all Standard or Core (including the GM chronicle). Mike has said the reporting system just can't handle it any other way.

Grand Lodge ** RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Kevin Willis wrote:
Mike has said the reporting system just can't handle it any other way.

If you enjoy a good mystery...:

Despite the multiple public assertions by Mike that it's a reporting system issue, as well as the multiple public assertions from VOs that Mike and the VOs have discussed Core at length on the private VO boards, we've had at least one VC react to someone questioning the reporting issue in such a way as to almost suggest that said VC had never even heard of the reporting issue, and in fact that VC asserted that the whole point of not allowing mixed tables was because they didn't want a Core PC to be able to benefit from non-Core options brought to the table by other PCs.

I'm sure we could come up with a tabloid-worthy conspiracy theory out of that, right? ;)

The Exchange ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Belafon

Jiggy wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:
Mike has said the reporting system just can't handle it any other way.
** spoiler omitted **

Not a particularly exciting conclusion to the mystery:
One does not preclude the other (both can be true).

1. Every piece of evidence I have seen says that the reporting system can't handle mixed tables. I'm sure it would technically be possible to create a reporting system that could handle both. However there would be increased programming effort required and a FAR greater chance of input errors.
2. I would refer you to Mike Brock's official posts on the subject for reasoning. I don't want to put any words into people's mouths, but he clearly states that Campaign Leadership does not want to allow mixed tables of Core and Standard characters.

The poster was asking about a GM credit (who wouldn't be interacting with the other characters at the table at all). While a reasonable question, the reporting system setup precludes it as an option.

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

Can wizards scribe non-Core spells from spell books from in the scenario? Can they scribe non-Core spells from other players' spell books?

Quote:

You can scribe spells from spell books found in the game. You must have a GM sign off on it on that chronicle sheet.

You can copy non-Core spells from other player's spell books. x

The Exchange **

You've told us how wizards can obtain non-Core spells, but how can spontaneous arcane spellcasters and divine spellcasters obtain non-Core spells?

Grand Lodge **** Venture-Captain, New Zealand—Dunedin aka dinketry

kjenks wrote:
You've told us how wizards can obtain non-Core spells, but how can spontaneous arcane spellcasters and divine spellcasters obtain non-Core spells?

Check the most recent post on the Society blog.

Shadow Lodge ***

I am working on a core character to play in PFS. I am wondering if any of the character types that are in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide are available to play.

Silver Crusade **

Paladin Lancer wrote:
I am working on a core character to play in PFS. I am wondering if any of the character types that are in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide are available to play.

Material in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide is not part of the CORE campaign.

Sczarni *****

Would the Faction trait boon from The Paths We Choose be legal to apply to a Core character?

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Captain, Virginia—Richmond West aka Slothsy

Dr. Grok, barbarian scientist wrote:
Would the Faction trait boon from The Paths We Choose be legal to apply to a Core character?

Only if you earned it by earning that chronicle in the Core Campaign, either by GMing a Core table or playing it through with a Core Campaign character.

Dark Archive **

Can you retrain your CORE Character after level 1 using the Ultimate Campaign rules?

*****

Nebten wrote:
Can you retrain your CORE Character after level 1 using the Ultimate Campaign rules?

I believe so although only to legal core options unless you have moved out of core into standard play. It's dealt with in either the original blog or the ensuing giant thread.

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