Under what circumstances would Combat Reflexes be useful? What sort of circumstance could lead to having more than one AoA against a foe in a round?
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Reach is usually what can give you multiple AoO. Or feats or abilities that use AoO, like a barbarian's Come and Get Me or Bodyguard feat. Teamwork feats can really help get a lot of AoO.
Oh, well there are lots and lots of ways.
1) More than one foe provoke.
2) Foes provoke multiple ways, such as standing up from prone and trying to drink a potion.
3) You have ways to make them provoke, such as having Greater Trip. You hold a reach weapon, when they try to approach you you get an AoO, and then when you successfully trip them you get another AoO.
4) Your buddies have ways to help you get AoOs, like the spell Screech.
5) You have other ways to use AoOs, like a swashbuckler's Opportune Parry and Riposte or the Bodyguard feat.
Those are just a few examples... there are many, many more.
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Well, for one, it doesn't have to be against the same foe. If you have 3-4 people all move past you towards the caster, you could potentially get an AoO on each and every one if you have combat reflexes.
For more regular pacing of AoOs, the Come and Get Me rage power gives you an AoO for every attack a foe makes against you.
You could also have a foe attempt to trip you (provoking), fail, get counter-tripped, then provoke again on standing up.
Then there's pure silliness of what I call the AoO chain. Two people with combat reflexes attempt an in-place-of-attack maneuver against each-other, like disarm, without the feat. Character A provokes, to which Character B responds with a disarm attempt (which provokes), so character A attempts a disarm attempt in turn, and so on. Outflank can do the same thing, but with attacks against the same creature. Once saw a single attack roll trigger a chain of 7 AoOs on the same creature due to that feat, turning it into a fine paste.
Under what circumstances would Combat Reflexes be useful? What sort of circumstance could lead to having more than one AoA against a foe in a round?
Thanks!
If you have a reach weapon, but lack this feat, and multiple goblins come at you, you can only get an Attack of Opportunity against one of them.
With the feat, you could get an Attack of Opportunity against many of them.
NOW I get it. I was misreading the description of the feat. Thank you everyone!
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The part about taking AoOs while flat-footed is also surprisingly important. Here's how a typical combat goes with my Investigator. While we're in potentially hostile areas, he carries his longspear at the ready. (GMs may give you a hard time about always having your sword unsheathed, but they're almost always cool with having a longspear in your hands, because where else is it gonna be?)
GM: "The bandit wins initiative and moves in to attack you."
Me: "That provokes. I try to trip. *roll* Does X trip?"
GM: "Yes. Well, for the rest of his turn he's gonna stand up then."
Me: "That provokes. I'm gonna poke him. *roll* Does Y hit?"
GM: "Yes. Now it's your turn."
Me: "I'm gonna trip him again.
Still about combat reflexes and AoO, What I want to know is, does a single "action" that involves multiple "acts" that provoke an AoO actually provoke multiple AoOs from the same creature?
Ex: An archer that fire 2 arrows (ranged attack action) in a barbarian's treat range, will he take 2 AoOs, one from each attack?
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Still about combat reflexes and AoO, What I want to know is, does a single "action" that involves multiple "acts" that provoke an AoO actually provoke multiple AoOs from the same creature?
Ex: An archer that fire 2 arrows (ranged attack action) in a barbarian's treat range, will he take 2 AoOs, one from each attack?
Yes. AoOs are provoked per act/trigger, not per action. So each time you fire an arrow is a separate AoO. Another example is casting a ray spell: it provokes once for casting and again for ranged attacking.
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Also remember that without Combat Reflexes, you can't make AoOs on the first round of combat unless you have already gone. So if you lose initiative and don't have Combat Reflexes, the goblin can run circles around you without provoking AoOs.
Bodyguard is also a nice use of Combat Reflexes.
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Yes. AoOs are provoked per act/trigger, not per action. So each time you fire an arrow is a separate AoO. Another example is casting a ray spell: it provokes once for casting and again for ranged attacking.Still about combat reflexes and AoO, What I want to know is, does a single "action" that involves multiple "acts" that provoke an AoO actually provoke multiple AoOs from the same creature?
Ex: An archer that fire 2 arrows (ranged attack action) in a barbarian's treat range, will he take 2 AoOs, one from each attack?
Note: This is true for almost every AoO trigger, except movement, which has a clause specifically only allowing one AoO per opponent no matter how many squares that would otherwise trigger AoOs that you move through.
Like that goblin circling around you, you would only get one AoO for the movement, no matter how many squares he moved through to go around you .
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But, you can also choose to take the AoO at any point in the movement if they stay in your threatened space.
For example, you can let the guy go past you so that he is now flanked by the guy behind you before you trip him, now the other guy gets to hit him when he stands as well.
And you want that guy to have Combat Reflexes, as well, so he can take that AoO for standing, and the AoO provoked when you Greater Tripped him. Bwhahahaha. Oops.
Make him a Monk with Vicious Stomp, for yet another AoO...
Now I need said Monk to travel with my 16th level Trip/Disarm PC...
Still about combat reflexes and AoO, What I want to know is, does a single "action" that involves multiple "acts" that provoke an AoO actually provoke multiple AoOs from the same creature?
Ex: An archer that fire 2 arrows (ranged attack action) in a barbarian's treat range, will he take 2 AoOs, one from each attack?
Yes. AoOs are provoked per act/trigger, not per action. So each time you fire an arrow is a separate AoO. Another example is casting a ray spell: it provokes once for casting and again for ranged attacking.
Thank you StabbittyDoom and all that did give a fast answer.
My friends were arguing with me bcs of this text in placed in AoO (combat section):"This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a DIFFERENT opportunity)."
So 'different' they understand like 'kinds' of opportunity, that cant be the same, like two same maneuvers in the same round, or an archer firing 2 arrows...
But I think now its clear