Tumor Familiar + Eldritch Heritage Arcane


Rules Questions


If you have a tumor familiar, then gain eldritch heritage arcane, is the result one familiar or two?

One interpretation I can see is a resulting familiar whose effective level is alch level + (character level -2), since classes that give a familiar stack.

Another is two separate familiars, since the abilities come from different sources.

If the answer is the second option, and I gain improved familiar, I assume it only effects 1 of the familiars?


Generally, if you have familiars from different sources, those sources stack for determining the total level your familiar can be (up to your character level), instead of each granting their own familiar.

For the record, with the familiar folio out, an enterprising Alchemist could get 4 (near full level) familiars quite easily. Tumor, arcane bloodline, homunculus archetype, familiar bond. It'd get quite ridiculous.


LoneKnave wrote:

Generally, if you have familiars from different sources, those sources stack for determining the total level your familiar can be (up to your character level), instead of each granting their own familiar.

For the record, with the familiar folio out, an enterprising Alchemist could get 4 (near full level) familiars quite easily. Tumor, arcane bloodline, homunculus archetype, familiar bond. It'd get quite ridiculous.

Where are you getting the sources stacking being limited by character level bit from? If they stack, but don't allow its' level to surpass my own then, there's no real point.

I haven't gotten a look at the folio yet. Looks like I'll be skipping homunculist in lieu of beastmorph though.


Genesist wrote:
LoneKnave wrote:

Generally, if you have familiars from different sources, those sources stack for determining the total level your familiar can be (up to your character level), instead of each granting their own familiar.

For the record, with the familiar folio out, an enterprising Alchemist could get 4 (near full level) familiars quite easily. Tumor, arcane bloodline, homunculus archetype, familiar bond. It'd get quite ridiculous.

Where are you getting the sources stacking being limited by character level bit from? If they stack, but don't allow its' level to surpass my own then, there's no real point.

I haven't gotten a look at the folio yet. Looks like I'll be skipping homunculist in lieu of beastmorph though.

The limited by character level bit seem to be a thing that is always included when there is a clarification of something. And in the cases i Can Think of it is a good Call. I dont know if it is in one of the books.

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