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I created this thread in order to get different Views on and Discussion on sexuality in the Campaign Setting.

Such as do you think the subject of sexuality should be explored?such as with a pathfinder Campaign Setting book? Does sex ever come up in your games? What do you want to see in the future related to sexuality? and so on

This is not a thread asking for or about sex rules or stuff like that. It only about flavor(fluff).and your views on sexuality in the pathfinder Campaign Setting.

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Liz Courts wrote:
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That looks like a thread specifically on Homosexuality in Golarion, hence the name of the thread 'Homosexuality in Golarion'. The OP never mentioned homosexuality once. I didn't read the entire thread but I'd like to think that, progressive agenda aside, other aspects of sexuality could be given equal weight and would be considered equally worthy of discussion. Also, it looks like the last post in that thread was 7 or 8 months ago...

To the OP, that's a pretty broad topic and the truth is that the answer would seem to vary widely not just from group to group but from individual to individual... in our group we treat sexuality like we would in every day life - its all around us all the time, in a myriad of forms from the uptight and conservative to the free-wheeling and adventurous. Occasionally it becomes a focus of some subplot or other but not to the degree that it distracts from or dominates the main story.

Heterosexuality as well as bi-sexuality, homosexuality, polyamory, incest, bestiality and a host of other 'non-traditional' relationships have played their role, often presented in a fashion other than might be expected and for the most part have added luster and flavor to our games. Now we are a group of mature and experienced players and we have discussed our individual preferences before we ever sat down at the table - that's the best advice I can offer; determine everyone's comfort level with any subject matter (not just sexuality but other potentially touchy subjects like torture, rape, violence against children, etc.) before exploring it. Exposing a player to something that makes them uncomfortable, even if the rest of the group is okay with it is basically inviting them to leave.

As far as our in-game play, flirtations and amorous or aggressive advances are role-played but actual sex is not.

Regarding future products, I guess is what you're asking, I myself very much enjoy sexually explicit materials but again, we play in a very mature group and I fully understand the many different gaming circumstances where my preferences would neither be appropriate or welcome... since Paizo has to think of their entire audience, I'd be surprised to see anything more explicit or with greater frequency than we've seen up to this point.


Liz Courts wrote:
Moderator note: Please note that a similar thread exists on this topic already.

I know that thread exists. This thread is for talking about sexuality in general in the Campaign Setting. or sexual themed spells, Archetypes a Campaign Setting book and stuff.

And James Jacobs believes the Internet can't handle sexuality maturely. He challenges the Internet to prove him wrong.


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Sex/sexuality tends to be very much a case-by-case issue, as the point of roleplaying games is to have fun, and all it takes is one person not being comfortable with the subject matter to put an end to the fun. Some groups are going to be 100% with your cleric of Arshea sharing their morning Obedience with anyone/everyone in the party who might be interested, some are going to be uncomfortable that you're inviting the stable boy up to your room in the inn.

That said, there are few topics I would consider entirely taboo for the game table, but remember that there's a whole group of people, so don't hog the table. Unless everyone else actually wants to hear about your exploits, it's enough to simply leave the matter at a couple of sentences of description and move on. Also, try to keep in mind that maturity matters, and that the nymph is nude because that's a cultural norm for the fey, not because she's permanently horny and wants to have sex with everyone in your party.


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Okay, now on to sexuality in the campaign setting.

Sexuality takes many forms, and all of these matter and can be important. There are canon NPCs who are gay, straight, bi, ace, and Wrath of the Righteous even gave us a major trans NPC. Representation is so very important to members of minorities, who get to feel a stronger connection to the campaign setting and know that 'there are people like me!' in Golarion. Then there's the issue of actually having sex, and I feel Paizo has done a great job handling this as well. Even in scenarios where sexuality explicit content would be expected, they tend to give an 'out'. Sure, the succubus might be expecting an orgy, but that doesn't mean you can't impress with some entirely non-sexual performance instead, and that's awesome that they keep in mind all possible audiences.

Now, there are a few areas where there is room for improvement... sexuality often comes up as a theme involving female NPCs, and female 'monsters' are far more likely to be portrayed nude than male ones, when considering those monsters where you can clearly discern the gender. However, I feel they've mostly done an excellent job in accounting for sexuality but keeping it optional.

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Given the difference in nature (as in, core aspect, not wild places) between Golarion and Earth I feel like sexuality there would have a few aspects we'd be unable to consider here.

Firstly, there are plenty of sentient humanoid races that aren't human, and so cultural norms in a given location would still probably dictate who it was "acceptable" to sleep/mate with, but the scale would be different.

A few examples.

  • Taldans are probably told not to love/have sex with Qadirans, despite both being human nations.
  • Kyonin elves kinda hate everyone, so non-Kyonin anyone is probably out.
  • Depending on how sexually conservative an area is, it could be "anything goes" (a place where Calistria and/or Lamashtu are primarily worshiped) or "some things are fine but..." (where Arshea and/or Shelyn hold sway,) and lastly "Only under specific circumstances" (where Lymneris/Erastil/Asmodeus are the head honchos.)
  • The options are a bit more... diversified in potential sexual partners. Half-elves and Half-orcs exist for a reason, and humans in fantasy settings (rather like real humans in a general sense) are known to be rather open minded. An "omnisexual" identity might be a thing with a whole different meaning than it would have here.
  • Laws regarding sex are likely quite different (again, subject to regional customs) regarding consent and what constitutes rape. for instance, enchantment spells pose a serious threat, just as drugs or alcohol would. Also, does shapeshifting races (dragons come to mind) assuming human form count as being deceptive?
  • Trust is much more important. In a world where the the likeliness of the person next to you actually being what they appear to be is significantly lower than it is on Earth, it's best to know who/what you're consenting to. Case and Point: There are a lot of sorcerer bloodlines.
  • Age of Consent would vary widely given the different race's different aging. Comparable Earth age of consent at the relative time would have been far younger than modern Earths, and the same was probably true, given that heirs are still presumably used as currency by the rich and powerful.
  • Sexual Magic would be a thing. There were a few books released by 3pps back in 3.5's day that explored some of this, but honestly? I got the impression they were giggling the entire time they were writing it. Some of those spells are just inane.
  • Socio-sexual equality is (at least hopefully) more prominent. I dunno about any of you, but I wouldn't go around being sexist when any given person could literally kill me with a word or glare.
  • Cultures there would follow practices we would likely be uncomfortable with. Nidal (according to my subjective sensibilities) would not be a nice place to explore one's sexuality. Cultists summon demons, and not just for revenge on their enemies. I don't want to know what a Lamashtan orgy actually looks like.

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Alayern wrote:
I don't want to know what a Lamashtan orgy actually looks like.

Too bad, you're finding out now: It involves a hezrou, two buckets of Qadiran spice, a glabrezu with a tambourine and a succubus with indigestion.


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Alayern wrote:
  • Depending on how sexually conservative an area is, it could be "anything goes" (a place where Calistria and/or Lamashtu are primarily worshiped) or "some things are fine but..." (where Arshea and/or Shelyn hold sway,) and lastly "Only under specific circumstances" (where Lymneris/Erastil/Asmodeus are the head honchos.)
  • I think Lymneris is very open to sexuality i don't know why you think he would be sexually conservative.Erastil can be open to sexuality and i don't think Asmodeus would care.


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    Mr.u wrote:
    Alayern wrote:
  • Depending on how sexually conservative an area is, it could be "anything goes" (a place where Calistria and/or Lamashtu are primarily worshiped) or "some things are fine but..." (where Arshea and/or Shelyn hold sway,) and lastly "Only under specific circumstances" (where Lymneris/Erastil/Asmodeus are the head honchos.)
  • I think Lymneris is very open to sexuality i don't know why you think he would be sexually conservative.Erastil can be open to sexuality and i don't think Asmodeus would care.

    Yeah, Lymnieris is literally the empyreal lord of prostitutes, so I don't see why he would have any objections to consensual acts between adults, regardless of species/gender/etc.

    Erastil is indeed fairly pro-sex... but also incredibly conservative. I can see a lot of Erastil's priests being the sort to teach that all sex should be missionary position between married couples, and that you should be popping out a baby or two every couple years.

    Asmodeus... probably wouldn't care. His priests on the other hand probably would. Concepts like 'racial purity' are inherently lawful evil, and I can definitely see his priesthood promoting such.


    I think it works fine. There are some parts that I change on the fly when my 8-year-old is playing, but tweaking things is a big part of the draw for me anyway. The only thing that I kind of wish was different was artwork in the middle of an adventure in which it sometimes looks like being naked would be more dressed - thinking Wrath of the Righteous succubi in particular. Bestiaries and bestiary sections are fine, but the middle of an adventure makes it difficult to use that page with my kid around.

    I guess my conclusion is: Explicit sexuality in text is fine. Explicit sexual artwork in separate sections is fine. Rather not have explicit artwork on a page in the middle of the adventure.

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    I always get a laugh out of veteran WFRP players who come back to me with "man, is the Pathfinder world rauchy!" comment. They don't see it as a negative, but are surprised by how often things that go bump in the nearby bush actually turn up as plot elements or NPC/PC modus operandi.

    I also enjoy the fact that it encourages players to actually relate to sexuality of their PCs over the course of campaign. But on the other hand it doesn't force anybody into anything, so if you want to play yer asexual dwarven tunnel warrior whose only addiction is booze, fine. :)


    Guang wrote:

    I think it works fine. There are some parts that I change on the fly when my 8-year-old is playing, but tweaking things is a big part of the draw for me anyway. The only thing that I kind of wish was different was artwork in the middle of an adventure in which it sometimes looks like being naked would be more dressed - thinking Wrath of the Righteous succubi in particular. Bestiaries and bestiary sections are fine, but the middle of an adventure makes it difficult to use that page with my kid around.

    I guess my conclusion is: Explicit sexuality in text is fine. Explicit sexual artwork in separate sections is fine. Rather not have explicit artwork on a page in the middle of the adventure.

    Which book was that? Only example I can find scanning through my set of Wrath of the Righteous is Nocticula in book 4. Except she only appears in the foreward and then in the bestiary at the back of the book, aside from a cameo image in the middle that only shows her head. The few actual succubi I can find pictures of are all fully clothed, such as Vellexia.


    Mackenzie Kavanaugh wrote:
    Guang wrote:

    I think it works fine. There are some parts that I change on the fly when my 8-year-old is playing, but tweaking things is a big part of the draw for me anyway. The only thing that I kind of wish was different was artwork in the middle of an adventure in which it sometimes looks like being naked would be more dressed - thinking Wrath of the Righteous succubi in particular. Bestiaries and bestiary sections are fine, but the middle of an adventure makes it difficult to use that page with my kid around.

    I guess my conclusion is: Explicit sexuality in text is fine. Explicit sexual artwork in separate sections is fine. Rather not have explicit artwork on a page in the middle of the adventure.

    Which book was that? Only example I can find scanning through my set of Wrath of the Righteous is Nocticula in book 4. Except she only appears in the foreward and then in the bestiary at the back of the book, aside from a cameo image in the middle that only shows her head. The few actual succubi I can find pictures of are all fully clothed, such as Vellexia.

    Maybe I'm getting confused with the pic of her in Lords of Chaos (which would then be fine for me, as its not in the adventure). Away from home ATM, so can't check, sorry.

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    It's been noted that Pathfinder is both Darker and Edgier, as well as being Sexier and Hotter than the franchise that gave rise to it.

    Sexuality, encompassing many different things seems to be generally an open thing. I remember an PFS game where you find out that an elf male and human male were lovers, and if you make a big deal of it you get scolded by the elf.

    As for sexuality and sex in the material.

    It seems to be implied that things like incest are not so good. The only Incest mentioned is preformed by evil creatures. (Ogers for one. Socobenoth and Nocticula for a second).

    Sucubbi are described as being seductive lusty, while Incubi are rather forceful.

    I had more to say but because I haven't breakfasted yet my brain is on the fuzzy side.


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    Myself, I would rather not include sexuality in RPGs. At all. It's a private, sacred act. I believe it should be kept as such.

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    Mackenzie Kavanaugh wrote:
    Mr.u wrote:
    Alayern wrote:
  • Depending on how sexually conservative an area is, it could be "anything goes" (a place where Calistria and/or Lamashtu are primarily worshiped) or "some things are fine but..." (where Arshea and/or Shelyn hold sway,) and lastly "Only under specific circumstances" (where Lymneris/Erastil/Asmodeus are the head honchos.)
  • I think Lymneris is very open to sexuality i don't know why you think he would be sexually conservative.Erastil can be open to sexuality and i don't think Asmodeus would care.

    Yeah, Lymnieris is literally the empyreal lord of prostitutes, so I don't see why he would have any objections to consensual acts between adults, regardless of species/gender/etc.

    Erastil is indeed fairly pro-sex... but also incredibly conservative. I can see a lot of Erastil's priests being the sort to teach that all sex should be missionary position between married couples, and that you should be popping out a baby or two every couple years.

    Asmodeus... probably wouldn't care. His priests on the other hand probably would. Concepts like 'racial purity' are inherently lawful evil, and I can definitely see his priesthood promoting such.

    Lymnieris' Portfolio: Prostitution, Rites of passage, Virginity

    Lymnieris' Worshipers: Adolescents, avowed chaste, prostitutes, unwillingly engaged couples

    Looks like Lymnieris is focused on keeping sex safe and fun for those still in a vulnerable stage: adolescents, those who don't want sex, prostitutes, and those forced into marriage. They've also got the protection domain, and are lawful good.

    "Only specific circumstances," in this case would mean codes of conduct and law made to absolutely ensure that consent is respected. There are a lot of fuzzy areas in this deity's worshippers: Would that prostitute be doing what they're doing with better economic times? Is that 14 year old really consenting when their 20 year old 'friend' suggests they need to "loosen up"? When that wife married off to a merchant so her family's status could rise says "no" to her drunk and lustful husband, is it rape?

    I can see Lymnieris being considered a stodgy, no-fun-allowed deity by particular groups in Pathfinder's world.

    I can also see Lymnieris and Erastil getting into some very heated discussions about consent in marriage. Some of Erastil's followers are known to force marriages if there's a pregnancy.

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    Ms. Pleiades wrote:

    I can see Lymnieris being considered a stodgy, no-fun-allowed deity by particular groups in Pathfinder's world.

    "Obedience: Lie on a hard, flat surface wearing nothing but a

    cowl. Concentrate on the feeling of the surface and the air
    while achieving sexual release without touching yourself."

    "
    devotees who wish to fulfill their sexual desires but who are
    restrained by culture or tradition."

    And from his description it comes down to one word.... sexy as all get out. He's always covered in a thin layer of persperation, meaning that his perfectly chisled muscled jade green body is glistening as he moves about (likely shirtless). He also often entertains Arshea. Make of that what you will.


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    Hmmm... it never seems to come up in my games(no pun intended). I must be pathfindering wrong.

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    I think you're missing the point of my post entirely, Snowfang.


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    I can see where you're coming from, Ms. Pleiades, but that really doesn't strike me as 'no-fun-allowed'. Lymnieris is all about making sure that everyone involved is having fun, and I imagine that, when it comes to those forced into marriage, they pray to Lymnieris for protection from spousal rape. No-fun-without-permission is something very different indeed, and suggests that with permission, all sorts of fun are very much allowed.

    That 14-year-old probably isn't mature enough to really consent, and Lymnieris will do what he can to protect them... just as he would protect reluctant prostitutes. Those who view Lymnieris as a stodgy, no-fun-allowed deity are rapists and sex abusers.


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    Sex and sexuality come up a lot in the Pathfinder games I've played. I've DMed for and played trans, gay, and bi characters, as well as characters with radically different views on sex.

    Its interesting to try and think about how sexuality is viewed in various countries, by different human ethnic groups in Golarion. For example, the groups I play with kind of collectively came up with different outlooks on sex for certain countries. Part of this is based on our own ideas, things mentioned in text, or even likening it to real world societies based on things like naming conventions and cultural similarities.

    Taldor: I see many people in Taldor having ideas of sexual conquest. All consensual of course, but the men brag about their prowess with their partners, and the ladies play with and enjoy the pursuit of their own. Your sex life is seen as something of an achievement, and all orientations are accepted. Love is a game first, and to be taken seriously second.

    Cheliax: The vibe I get from Cheliax is a kind of Roman-esque society. It is socially acceptable for people to be gay, but it is largely seen as the frivolities of young adults. For example, if you are a man you will probably eventually still be expected to get married and have a child, especially if you belong to a wealthy or noble family. However no one minds if you have a lover on the side that more fits your preferences. (I'm playing a character in this situation right now! He is in a loveless marriage with a woman after being pressured by his family. )

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    And you hit the nail right on the head, Mackenzie.

    Subparhiggins wrote:

    Sex and sexuality come up a lot in the Pathfinder games I've played. I've DMed for and played trans, gay, and bi characters, as well as characters with radically different views on sex.

    Its interesting to try and think about how sexuality is viewed in various countries, by different human ethnic groups in Golarion. For example, the groups I play with kind of collectively came up with different outlooks on sex for certain countries. Part of this is based on our own ideas, things mentioned in text, or even likening it to real world societies based on things like naming conventions and cultural similarities.

    Taldor: I see many people in Taldor having ideas of sexual conquest. All consensual of course, but the men brag about their prowess with their partners, and the ladies play with and enjoy the pursuit of their own. Your sex life is seen as something of an achievement, and all orientations are accepted. Love is a game first, and to be taken seriously second.

    Cheliax: The vibe I get from Cheliax is a kind of Roman-esque society. It is socially acceptable for people to be gay, but it is largely seen as the frivolities of young adults. For example, if you are a man you will probably eventually still be expected to get married and have a child, especially if you belong to a wealthy or noble family. However no one minds if you have a lover on the side that more fits your preferences. (I'm playing a character in this situation right now! He is in a loveless marriage with a woman after being pressured by his family. )

    You're thinking more of Ancient Greece on the front of Cheliax. In Rome, like in Greece, homosexuality was acceptable, but sex had further connotations of dominance and power arrangements. A man could have sex with his male slaves, he had power over them as his property, but if it was found out that the slave was the penetrating partner, it was scandalous.

    Cheliax, given its current rulers, is in all likelihood very into displays of dominance and power. I'd bet they have a view similar to ancient Rome.


    IMC in Hermea, since Mengkare controls reproduction of Hermeans closely, anal sex is very common. In fact, it's the only thing dockside sex workers are allowed to do, and that causes a certain amount of juvenility and excitement when ships find themselves in need of a stopover in Promise. (Inspired by the IRL practice of saddlebacking).


    Ernest Mueller wrote:
    IMC in Hermea, since Mengkare controls reproduction of Hermeans closely, anal sex is very common. In fact, it's the only thing dockside sex workers are allowed to do, and that causes a certain amount of juvenility and excitement when ships find themselves in need of a stopover in Promise. (Inspired by the IRL practice of saddlebacking).

    How do you know this!?


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    Pretty sure that 'IMC' means 'In My Campaign'.


    Mackenzie Kavanaugh wrote:
    Pretty sure that 'IMC' means 'In My Campaign'.

    Oh


    Drat and Bother!

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    Do you think the people of Golarion use magic for sexual purposes. Such as spells or Potions that create effects similar to viagra or increase sexual pleasure.or Summoners using there eidolons as sexual partners or How do feel about that.

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    xavier c wrote:
    Do you think the people of Golarion use magic for sexual purposes. Such as spells or Potions that create effects similar to viagra or increase sexual pleasure.or Summoners using there eidolons as sexual partners or How do feel about that.

    Considering this involves PEOPLE... yes.

    If there is a technology, magic thing or ANYTHING people will use it for sexual purposes. That's just how humans (And likely other intelligent creatures) work.


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    There is, in the adenturer's armory, certain herbs to stop a lady getting pregnant. Bachelor Snuff for gentleman, although it gives teeth and nails a gilded look, and Night Tea for women. There's also a drug called Allnight, which doesn't specifically suggest it's for adult activities, but it seems likely, given the name.

    Beyond, I doubt we'll see much sexual stuff. There's no reason an Eidolon and it's Summoner couldn't be intimate, but if the Eidolon doesn't have free will and must obey it's Summoner, it gets...squicky, fast. Not to mention the use of Enchantment school spells as seduction.


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    xavier c wrote:
    Do you think the people of Golarion use magic for sexual purposes. Such as spells or Potions that create effects similar to viagra or increase sexual pleasure.or Summoners using there eidolons as sexual partners or How do feel about that.

    I'm sure Enlarge Person, and Reduce Person are boons to those with size or infantilisation fetishes. Alter Self and other Polymorph spells are good for keeping a feeling of variety.

    Of course there are many other possibilities, some too ribald to mention.


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    xavier c wrote:
    Do you think the people of Golarion use magic for sexual purposes. Such as spells or Potions that create effects similar to viagra or increase sexual pleasure.or Summoners using there eidolons as sexual partners or How do feel about that.

    Sure but probably only among magic-users and the rich (and brothels that cater to those groups). I doubt common folk really have the finances to spend on those purposes.

    I could even see it as being a sore spot between the have's and have nots. Ooh...look at the decadent nobles, who are blowing there money on magical sex toys, while we struggle to eat every night or keep the farm up and running.


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    I think the setting should provide a fair representation of the different sexualities present in real-world society. This makes the setting easier to identify with. However, the real-world controversies and battles should be left out only because they would create a distraction. So, I suppose I'm advocating for a utopian representation - there are straight, gay, bi, etc. people and they are all treated fairly and equally, etc.

    As for sex and sexual acts, I think Paizo has pushed a few boundaries, perhaps a bit too far, especially in the Adventure Paths. This hasn't created problems for me, but that is only because my gaming group is all older (30+) and it was easy to drop the parts that were too awkward.

    Specifically, I'm thinking of Rise of the Runelords:

    The female NPC that tries to seduce a PC. I had to drop this entirely as it was just too awkward to roleplay. Not from a maturity perspective, but from a that's not our game perspective.

    Ogre-kin behavior. This shocked everyone and creeped them out a bit (as intended), but it was fine. Not sure what I would have done if I had a young teen or tween at the table.

    I'm all for having sex being present in the setting. But I'd rather see it be presented as optional rather than "required". If the town has a prostitute - fine by me. Somebody has to hire the prostitute for the story to progress - sorry, no. And I don't want to ever be put in a situation where I have to explain to someone what a <insert adult topic> is.

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    Mike J wrote:

    my gaming group is all older (30+)

    I don't want to ever be put in a situation where I have to explain to someone what a <insert adult topic> is.

    A 30+ person should know what <insert adult topic> are, barring corner cases.

    Also, I find it curious when folks have no problems with murdering sentient beings using balls of magical fire and acid, but flip out at the notion of hiring a prostitute.

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    Gorbacz wrote:
    Mike J wrote:

    my gaming group is all older (30+)

    I don't want to ever be put in a situation where I have to explain to someone what a <insert adult topic> is.

    A 30+ person should know what <insert adult topic> are, barring corner cases.

    Also, I find it curious when folks have no problems with murdering sentient beings using balls of magical fire and acid, but flip out at the notion of hiring a prostitute.

    I'm not suggesting Mike J is like this. But it seems to be the very typical (and unfortunate) attitude in America.

    My group is quite open about sexual topics. Though I do my best to steer away from blatantly stating things that would be triggering to my friends.


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    My own circle of players are fairly mature on the subject of sexuality, just as they are mature on the immediate ending of sentient life that is a core part of the gameplay. (We're all 27+ with two parents and two former-military)

    Usually sexuality in our game is used to add a little extra description to a NPC or a PC as it can elicit so many different responses based upon the sum of knowledge that the table has about the character.

    Usually a single sentence is used when appropriate for behavior in the bedroom and has a lasting impression.

    Such as one PC Barbarian whose brutality in combat was considered disturbing by his adventuring cohorts managed to gain sympathy when his bedroom behavior was leaked in that he treated his partner like a fragile porcelain doll.

    Or another promiscuous female PC whose rampant trysts got under the skin of of one of her companions, a pious Oracle. But only after several years of adventuring together (Many many many sessions) revealed to the Oracle she was the wife of a Taldorian Noble, but fled from him when it was revealed she was barren, fearing for her life since women of her station unable to have children usually ended up "falling off of balconies."

    Or two pragmatically ruthless evil Clerics who marry (A Zyphen and an Urgathoan) and reserve all outward displays of emotional and spiritual weakness for the bedroom where they feel safe and alone.

    There's plenty of other examples, but Golarion is a diverse place, so you should be able to find just about any kind of situation or person.


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    Like a lot of other things, its mostly a source of humor.

    In our skull and shackles campaign the ships were named "The morning after" and "the walk of shame"

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    Nezzmith wrote:

    My own circle of players are fairly mature on the subject of sexuality, just as they are mature on the immediate ending of sentient life that is a core part of the gameplay. (We're all 27+ with two parents and two former-military)

    Usually sexuality in our game is used to add a little extra description to a NPC or a PC as it can elicit so many different responses based upon the sum of knowledge that the table has about the character.

    Usually a single sentence is used when appropriate for behavior in the bedroom and has a lasting impression.

    Such as one PC Barbarian whose brutality in combat was considered disturbing by his adventuring cohorts managed to gain sympathy when his bedroom behavior was leaked in that he treated his partner like a fragile porcelain doll.

    Or another promiscuous female PC whose rampant trysts got under the skin of of one of her companions, a pious Oracle. But only after several years of adventuring together (Many many many sessions) revealed to the Oracle she was the wife of a Taldorian Noble, but fled from him when it was revealed she was barren, fearing for her life since women of her station unable to have children usually ended up "falling off of balconies."

    Or two pragmatically ruthless evil Clerics who marry (A Zyphen and an Urgathoan) and reserve all outward displays of emotional and spiritual weakness for the bedroom where they feel safe and alone.

    There's plenty of other examples, but Golarion is a diverse place, so you should be able to find just about any kind of situation or person.

    I'm going to print this out and frame it to remind myself what good roleplay is every now and then. This is the best thing I have read about roleplay in years. Thank you so much.

    Grand Lodge

    BigNorseWolf wrote:

    Like a lot of other things, its mostly a source of humor.

    In our skull and shackles campaign the ships were named "The morning after" and "the walk of shame"

    That is freaking awesome, and I'm not even entirely sure why.


    In general, sexuality seldom comes up during our game. The players are usually to busy killing things....

    That said, I generally try to handle things from a varied stand point, based on what seems logical for the culture in question.


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    Ms. Pleiades wrote:
    Alayern wrote:
    I don't want to know what a Lamashtan orgy actually looks like.
    Too bad, you're finding out now: It involves a hezrou, two buckets of Qadiran spice, a glabrezu with a tambourine and a succubus with indigestion.

    Indigestion??! AIEE! ...and runs away


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    Gorbacz wrote:
    Mike J wrote:

    my gaming group is all older (30+)

    I don't want to ever be put in a situation where I have to explain to someone what a <insert adult topic> is.

    A 30+ person should know what <insert adult topic> are, barring corner cases.

    Also, I find it curious when folks have no problems with murdering sentient beings using balls of magical fire and acid, but flip out at the notion of hiring a prostitute.

    ...back now

    Because IRL I can hire a prostitute (illegally in a couple different ways) and cannot flip balls of magical fire.

    This is called the "ick-factor" and it's why I seem to agree with Mike J's opinion as expressed.


    BigNorseWolf wrote:

    Like a lot of other things, its mostly a source of humor.

    In our skull and shackles campaign the ships were named "The morning after" and "the walk of shame"

    And I agree with this one too.

    Grand Lodge

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    My group just flat doesn't care about adding sexuality or sexual situations to games. Of the 8 members of my group, all but one of us are married (sexual outlet? Check!), and all but 2 of us have kids. We're all over 30, and half of us are in our 40's. Sexuality and sexual situations lost their "that's naughty, tee hee hee" factor years ago. At this point, if it's not a plot point of some kind, we don't bother to mention it (and this is with several of my male players playing female characters).

    Also, we're all prudish, violence-loving Americans. So maybe that has something to do with it.

    -Skeld


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    Alayern wrote:
    I don't want to know what a Lamashtan orgy actually looks like.

    Your whole post was good, but this assured a favorite. :P


    It is good to see people are being mature. and my thead did not get locked.

    Do you think gods like Iomedae, Sarenrae and Abadar are sexual?


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    Oh, definitely Sarenrae... and I imagine even Iomedae has a few children here and there. Regarding Abadar though... he has a perfect copy of everything stored away in the First Vault. You know what they say about 'practice makes perfect'? He must practice a LOT to get perfect copies of everything.

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