Dragon bloodrager, Dragon disciple in pfs

[Bluko Took]

In Advanced class origins it recommends the bloodrager for the dragon disciple prestige class. the question I ask and hope this maybe is added into an erratta do I swap the sorcerer phrases for bloodrager when determining my blood of dragons and bloodline feats for society play? given how the prestiege class was made before the hybrid class came to be?

[Damanta]

Until there is an FAQ or ruling from campaign management, you have two bloodlines.

The draconic bloodline from the bloodrager which stops advancing once you enter draconic disciple.
The draconic bloodline from the sorcerer for which your draconic disciple levels count for advancement.

[Bluko Took]

thank you I kinda hope an faq does show up for the prestiege classes that show up in advanced class origns

[Manaria Moonsilver]

I too, await this day.

[Prethen]

I agree (and FAQ'd the post) that it would be awesome if the prestige class worked that way with a Bloodrager. I looked into doing that with the new class but decided against it since there was no explicit wording in the ACG rules. I sort of expected to see such rules in the ACG since the prestige class was already a known entity.

[Z...D...]

Exactly why I put my Draconic Bloodrager on the backburner until we get an exact ruling.

IMO though, since a Bloodrager is half sorcerer, the levels should stack for the abilities.

But I shall wait until the powers that be come down with a decision.

[Sebastian Hirsch]

They are currently working on proper errata for the ACG, it may take some time, but I think that issue is already in their radar.

[Nefreet]

This question creeps into the PFS Forums at least twice a week, it seems.

I'm sure the Design Team is aware of it, and will address it eventually.

[Rei]

I'm also curious as to whether one can take the trait Outer Dragon Blood and use that when entering Dragon Disciple.

[Decorpsed]

Necroing this thread to post the FAQ for future searches.

It works how everyone hoped.

[Ryzoken]

Decorpsed wrote:

It works how everyone hoped.

#notEveryone

Elaboration: because bloodline abilities are only active during bloodrage for a bloodrager whereas some are always on for the sorcerer (resistances, nat arm increase), if your character only takes a dip in bloodrager (thus lacking in rounds of rage) as my character has, this FAQ is actually detrimental to the character. Happily, I was able to add the id rager archetype, trading away bloodline, to my dip of urban bloodrager, causing dragon disciple to default back to sorcerer progression instead of bloodrager progression, a solution which I fell upon entirely through serendipity.
Now my nagaji dragon disciple can enjoy the full benefits of his prc even when not raging, and can activate claws independent of bloodrage.

For the curious, his entry into dragon disciple ended up being archeologist bard 1, divine hunter paladin 2, lore warden fighter 1, urban id rager bloodrager 1. He fights with a merciful halberd for the glorious victory of Apsu over the foul Dahak when not serving the Pathfinder Society.

[Chess Pwn]

id rager cannot be combined with urban bloodrager as both alter yours spells. Mark

[Ryzoken]

Thomas Hutchins wrote:

id rager cannot be combined with urban bloodrager as both alter yours spells. Mark

/headdesk

It'd be really great if class abilities would explicitly indicate when they modify or replace abilities. Like, if adopted magic made mention in the line pertaining to replacements that it also modified spellcasting, I wouldn't have had this gotcha sprung on me.

*removes Urban from his Id Rager*

This entirely aside from the frustration of not being able to combine archetypes that modify the same ability even though the modifications are in no way contradictory, as in the case of Urban and Id Rager.

[Chess Pwn]

I agree, it easily could have worked turns out spellcasting is your stat and list and type. Rather than them being three separate parts of a whole.

And I agree, with them putting "this alters/replaces" sometimes really messes with people. Because it's not required to say that for it to modify the base ability, but people's first reaction is that if it doesn't say it must not.