OK so you get a third domain.. Big Deal.
Lets look at a level 10 cleiruic levle 10 exalted.
As a cleric he gets 2 domains at level 10 as an exalted he gets one more at level 10.
It does NOT say in Exalted that it advances Domains as a cleric. So yoru Cleric domains stop advancing and then you get a third domain that advances as an exalted. That is a trade off. I would consider 2 at 20 MAY be more effective then 3 at 10.
Exalted has 1 good save 2 bad saves, cleric has 2 good saves.
So a 10/10 has saves (before stats) of Fort 10, Ref 6, Wil 12 vs cleric 20 fort 12 ref 6 Wil 12 (MINOR advantage cleric).
DEPENDING on how you interpret Domain spells you may be shooting yourself in the foot. I DO NOT KNOW what the correct way is.
Option 1) Domain Spells are part of spellcasting which advances with prestige class.
Option 2) Domain spells are a function of the domain whcih does NOT advance with prestige class.
So with option 1 Exaled is clearly better and can fill his 9 domain slots with 1 of 3 spells at each level.
With Option 2 Cleric is clearly better, as while the exalted has a little more flexibility on domain spells for level 1-5 only the cleric gets domain slots on 6 - 9.
Is exalted a good class? Yes, it is also very flavorful. I am not sold on it being heads and shoulders the way to biuld any cleric.
P.S. IF anyone cares... reach clerics? BAB is 1 less with Cleric/Exalted when compared to pure cleric
Good analysis... although
1) Exalted does get a +2 fort save at 2nd level (Vitality)
2) The extra domain spells can each be cast 1/day as a SLA meaning your domain slot is unaffected
Hmmmm for me it really does hinge on that domain interpretation.... it is after all a 2 feat investment. If domain spells are unaffected then you'd be mad not to get into the class ASAP. The divine boons and other titbits do definitely compensate for the feat investment IMO. If not... as you said having 2 fully ramped domains wins out.
At the indicated levels, an exalted gains new spells per day as if she had also gained a level in a spellcasting class to which she belonged before taking the prestige class. She does not, however, gain other benefits a character of that class would have gained, except for additional spells per day, spells known (if she is a spontaneous spellcaster), and an increased effective level of spellcasting. If the character had more than one divine spellcasting class before becoming an exalted, she must decide to which class she adds the new level for the purposes of determining spells per day.
At 5th level, the exalted further increases her already impressive knowledge of her chosen deity's faith and is rewarded with increased powers in one of the spheres over which her deity holds sway. The exalted chooses a domain of her chosen deity to which she gains access, using her exalted level as her effective cleric level.
The exalted can also can use each of the chosen domain's spells once per day as a spell-like ability, with a caster level equal to her exalted level. The exalted can use each spell-like ability only if she is able to cast divine spells of that level. If the exalted has any domain spell slots, she is also able to cast the chosen domain's spells in those slots as normal.
So, a cleric/exalted gets spellcasting as a full cleric of the combined level, including caster level. They do not get anything else from the cleric class as they advance, including channeling and domain spells. Thus, a cleric 5/exalted 1 casts as a cleric 6, but gets domain powers as level 5 and channels as level 5.
When they get the expanded portfolio ability, they choose a third domain their deity has. For this domain, domain powers are counted just from the exalted level. This is where it gets wonky. The way I read it, since they count as their exalted level only for this domain, I would say they get only domain spells up to that level. Thus, at exalted 5, they get up to a third level domain spell slot maximum. Further, they need domain spell slots to get these, so a cleric 5/exalted 7 would not get the level 4 domain spell level slot for the extra domain. Finally, the caster level for the extra domain spells would be only from exalted levels.
Finally, the spell-like ability casting means they can cast their extra domain's domain spells once per day each as a SLA. Her CL counts only the exalted levels, and they need to be able to cast such spell levels to do it.
I like Zon-Kuthon's obediance. It's really easy and flavorful.
2) SLAs still have to pay for expensive material components and other costs associated with the spell.
This is incorrect.
Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (though they are not spells and so have no verbal, somatic, focus, or material components).
edit: on a side note, looking over the exalted class its not particularly impressive in the grand scheme of things. To start with, it doesn't advance any class abilities outside of divine spell casting. This means your other domain abilities don't advance once you start taking levels in this (though you still get bonus spells since that's part of spell casting). The class doesn't give much else outside of this 5th level ability and a free miracle (that does cost gold to cast) 1/day at 10th level. Even the 3rd domain you gain is based on your exalted levels not caster or character level. Meaning your 3rd domain abilities get capped at level 10. I tried swapping out exalted in some builds of mine that use evangelist and overall found the benefits didn't really outweigh what I was giving up.
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You may be thinking of the limitation on summoning, where summoned creatures can't use their SLAs with costly material components.
You may be thinking of the limitation on summoning, where summoned creatures can't use their SLAs with costly material components.
Also, most abilities that give you costly spells as SLA specify that you still have to pay - but that's because otherwise, you wouldn't have to.
Just clarifying 2 points -
1) You can only ever have 3 boons:
- "Each deity grants three boons"
- "Consult the Deific Obedience feat for details on divine boons"
- "This ability allows an exalted to access these boons earlier than with the Deific Obedience feat alone"
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/e-h/exalted/
So you can get a maximum of 3 boons, the feat Deific Obedience is your source of information on these boons, and "these boons earlier" tells me the Boons from the class and Deific Obedience are these same boons.
2) Domains - "A cleric gains one domain spell slot for each level of cleric spell she can cast, from 1st on up."
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/
So once a cleric has a domain, the domain "slot" actually is dependent on the level of cleric spell they can case and not a function of the domain itself.
Cheers
Oooh, a two for one sale!
i used the exalted in my build for "Shenron the wish granting dragon (orcale)".
at level 20 (oracle (dragon mystery) 10\exalted 10 (picked magic domain,divine subdomain. can worship Asmodeius or Nethys among others) he has among his abilities, the following powers:
exalted level 10 'miracle' 1/day (no material costs). gained at level 15
miracle 1/day (sla, no material costs). - had from level 18
resurrection 1/day (sla, no material costs) had from level 14
limited wish 2/day (sla, no material costs) ('dragon magic' class ability retrained with elf's oracle favored class ability to get +1 effective level). - had 1/day at level 19, 2/day at 20th
and as an elf with the 'lightbringer' alt race ability who was adopted by a Genie, he can use minor wishcraft to cast any level 0 spell as long as a humanoid wish for it (himself included),at will. - this he had from level 1
all this without counting other sla (spell levels 1,2,3,4,5,6,8) and boons
....
(at level 1)
" so you say you wish to become this so called 'Super Saiyon'? what does that look like?
"i start to glow"
-"gotcha" (light on clothes)
"and there is a rush of air from the ground upward surrounding me"
"yes yes, can do"( breeze)
"...and my hair turns yellow"
"easy peasy" (Prestidigitation on hair).
"ok all done, your a 'super Saiyon' now!"
@Oni_Sloth
I mean, you lengthy post was good.
But you're talking a level 1 Spell.
A Wizard's level 1 spells has a DC of 16. No wizard doesn't start with 20 at level, unless you make them so.
Anything humanoid won't likely make the save.
If it's undead campaign they have other stuff at their disposal. Grease, Disrupt Undead, etc.
Now, if at level 1 you're sending enemies with +10 to Wills... nothing I can do.
Average CR for a party at level 1 won't likely make the save. If you have a spellcaster to counter that same wizard, that's basically like saying "i fight overpowered with more overpowered"