Adamantine versus Mithral


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I noticed under the random magic generation, Table 5–6: Armor Special Materials in Gamemastery Guide, that there is a better % chance to get Adamantine than Mithral. Is Adamantine more common than Mithral? What is your view on this?


If what the players have mean anything, mithral is far more common. Everyone wears mithral it seems.


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Yeoldefog wrote:
I noticed under the random magic generation, Table 5–6: Armor Special Materials in Gamemastery Guide, that there is a better % chance to get Adamantine than Mithral. Is Adamantine more common than Mithral? What is your view on this?

Mithril is mined far underground, where dark and dangerous things live. Adamantine falls from the sky, because it's a sky metal. That's why it's easier to find. At least, that's my theory.

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Cerberus Seven wrote:
Yeoldefog wrote:
I noticed under the random magic generation, Table 5–6: Armor Special Materials in Gamemastery Guide, that there is a better % chance to get Adamantine than Mithral. Is Adamantine more common than Mithral? What is your view on this?
Mithril is mined far underground, where dark and dangerous things live. Adamantine falls from the sky, because it's a sky metal. That's why it's easier to find. At least, that's my theory.

Though Adamantine requires insanely hot forges that only exist in certain parts of the world. Also, those forges occasionally spew an incindiary explosion, making them a bit risky to work with.

My table most ignores the rarity issue since there is little definition for how rare they're actually supposed to be, or how you might go about acquiring it if something other than cash were required. To keep it simple we just say that it's only as rare as your pocket book, so to speak.

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Yeah adamantine is more common but well, for player characters, it doesn't matter, since they usually can make the right type of contacts due to their heroic deeds and have enough gold to pay for it.


adamantine is less expensive than mithral by weight. If you used them as currency, it'd be 6 gp to the 1 'adamantine piece', and 10 gp to the 1 'mithral piece'.

Which leads to the question: why do mithral and platinum have the same value by weight, if mithral is way more useful?

::shrug::

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Mithral also counts as silver without the damage penalties, and apparently, if things are to be believed, doesn't get turned into rust monster chow, so there's that.

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ohako wrote:

adamantine is less expensive than mithral by weight. If you used them as currency, it'd be 6 gp to the 1 'adamantine piece', and 10 gp to the 1 'mithral piece'.

Which leads to the question: why do mithral and platinum have the same value by weight, if mithral is way more useful?

::shrug::

For the same reason that platinum is worth anything at all. It's not very useful either in Pathfinder or in real life - yet it still has value.

In both cases though - much of what you're paying for is the crafting of the item out of the material - which requires more skill than usual. I think you're overstating their raw value.

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platinum is white gold...its as beautiful in jewelry as gold, but harder to shape, and lasts much longer.
It's also the primary means for carburetor activation in automobiles. It's both useful and valuable artisitically.
However, it is MUCH rarer then gold.

In PF, it's valuable because 1 pp = 5 gp. Saves weight!

==Aelryinth


Aelryinth wrote:

platinum is white gold...its as beautiful in jewelry as gold, but harder to shape, and lasts much longer.

It's also the primary means for carburetor activation in automobiles. It's both useful and valuable artisitically.
However, it is MUCH rarer then gold.

In PF, it's valuable because 1 pp = 5 gp. Saves weight!

==Aelryinth

Actually, it's a base 10 progression. 10 copper pieces = 1 silver piece. 10 silver pieces = 1 gold piece. 10 gold pieces = 1 platinum piece. I believe you're using the old 3.5 currency exchange rate which included electrum.

Spook205 wrote:
doesn't get turned into rust monster chow, so there's that.

Really? That's neat. Where'd people figure that out at?


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Actually, it's a base 10 progression. 10 copper pieces = 1 silver piece. 10 silver pieces = 1 gold piece. 10 gold pieces = 1 platinum piece. I believe you're using the old 3.5 currency exchange rate which included electrum.

3.0/3.5 didn't have electrum. 2nd edition did.

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doesn't get turned into rust monster chow, so there's that.
Really? That's neat. Where'd people figure that out at?

Considering the rust monster description specifically says they eat mithral, I don't have a clue.


Maybe it is a special ragequit avoidance house rule


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The only metal I can think of that is rust monster immune is Silversheen, not Mithral.

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Ah, no. People on the internet have lied to me and I provided the information without vetting. I am in error.

Mea culpa.


Maybe there is less adamantine available, but it keeps in circulation for much longer.

I mean, the whole deal with it is that it is hard to break, right? So maybe there are more of them around because the mithral equipment breaks from normal wear and tear.

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