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Although you'll sometimes find yourself traveling through narrow corridors, once combat breaks out you're usually in a big enough place to beef up a bit. Even so, remember that enlarge person has a casting time of 1 round, so be careful. Probably best to carry a stash of potions.
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Like the title says. I have a couple of char ideas, but they rely on using enlarge person a lot. Would this require me to be picky in my scenarios?
Are you new? You must be new. I kid, I kid. ;)
But to seriously answer your question, if you like to fight in melee and hit hard, enlarge person is great.
Venture-Lieutenant, California—Los Angeles (South Bay)
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I have used the spell to great effect as a player and seen it work very well as a GM It is particularly effective on characters wielding two-handed weapons who go from medium to large. (I have seen a few monsters suffer criticals at the hands of enlarged PCs. Let's say that usually finishes foes off or gets them to where a single spell or well placed job will finish the job.)
Things to note about Enlarge Person:
1)Alchemists can use there extracts as a standard action
2)with Infusion you can let the fighters buff themselves
3)Summoners can use it on there Eidolon.
I have it on a few of my characters and have not had a problem yet,(other then needing the full round to cast with my summoner)
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It's funny, I used to see Enlarge Person used a LOT more often. Potions of Enlarge would get chugged like they were purchased by the gallon.
Nowadays, still see it used, but only on occasion.
-j
Venture-Agent, Florida–Altamonte Springs
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a swift action SU ability via the growth domain.
Just remember this only lasts one round, and you need at least a 10 wisdom to do it more then once. I've seen a barbarian with a 7 wisdom take a level dip into cleric for the domain though, then get pissed when he burned his 1 round a day [3 + Wis Mod = 3 + (-2) = 1] on the first fight.
Enlarge (Su): As a swift action you can enlarge yourself for 1 round, as if you were the target of the enlarge person spell. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.
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My Lore Warden Fighter with a reach weapon who trips a lot always carries three potions of enlarge person into a scenario. 20-foot reach makes him a significant battlefield controller.
My Bloodrager/Brawler does the same, using the SLWS to swift draw the potion, standard drink, move into position and draw while moving. This character has been on a trolololol rampage in 2 scenarios so far.
Enlarge is good when used on melee and amazing when used on someone built to want it.
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I know more than one GM who hates my Grenadier because of that. :D
nothing like Mutagen (Str), Enlarge Person, Bull's Strength to make your 'middle of the road' Archery based Alchemist into a scary scary man with a +1 adaptive bow and the GM going 'He has a WHAT strength?'.
Add in the other things like a set of Large Durable Arrow set that he hands off to a bystander before starting up..and it's fun.
Not to mention its fun those few times when he gets to use his Falchion. :D
Enlarge Person is an AWESOME spell but like other said, timing is VITAL.
Just imagine arrows the size of POOL STICKS with Explosive Missile AND admixtured Fire/Holy Water..and you know why folks suddenly decide the white haired elf in back isn't to be ignored.
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Enlarged archery is tricky. Buy some large-sized arrows. Round 1: drop your quiver, take the vial of enlarge person, and drink the potion. Round 2: pick up your quiver, shoot your first arrow. (Unless you also want to enjoy the effects of gravity bow or aspect of the falcon.)
Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Minneapolis
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I dropped it from my Summoner.
The casting time being a full round means that the person you meant it for may have moved out of range. Although most of the time it isn't a problem getting enough room, I've hit a few boss fights where it is too crowded to use it. Then there is the recalculation that has to happen.
It can be a great spell in the right group under the right circumstances. I found that at least in my area, the people who most wanted it tended to bring potions of it. I decided that it just wasn't worth the spell known slot.
I had a cleric/monk that used the ki throw feats and a kusari-gama and had Enlarge Person as a domain spell. That gave me 15' reach. It was genuinely one of the best battlefield control characters that I have played with. Stack on some feats like disarm. You make things awesome for your party!
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My barbarian 5 / Loving Monolith 3 likes it quite a bit, especially since LM's get it 3/day as a swift action. Before level 6 she was guzzling Enlarge Person potions like they were going out of style. I had planned on going LM for the rest of this character's career, but it's not a horrible splash. The slight loss of BAB makes it somewhat awkward sometimes, but that's only when the character isn't enlarged.
Edit: Some of the prereqs for LM can also be a bit awkward, like taking endurance as a feat and the 1000 gp, so it won't be for everyone.
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My ifrit offers his archer companions his reduce person SLA to increase their to-hit without changing their damage die.
Sorry to break it to you, but...
Melee and projectile weapons deal less damage. Other magical properties are not affected by this spell. Any reduced item that leaves the reduced creature's possession (including a projectile or thrown weapon) instantly returns to its normal size. This means that thrown weapons deal their normal damage (projectiles deal damage based on the size of the weapon that fired them).
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I have a human Barbarian/Druid with the growth domain. At low level he is using a quarterstaff that he can pre-buff with Shillelagh, he then will rage and and enlarge himself. Since rage is free action and growth domain a swift, he can do both in the same round. (Growth domain is an Su ability, so he can use it while raging.)
He also can cast Enlarge 1/day thanks to the domain.
Right now he is a barbarian 2/druid 1, probably will go barbarian x/druid 4. Not entirely sure how he'll do at higher levels, but so far has been fun to play.
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Runt keeps several Enlarge Person infusions (preserving flasks rock) and the tricky part is the 'handoff' of arrows. You have to explain to some players (and GMs) that the arrows are a: large and b: legal for play.
Two more levels and I can get gravity bow wand as an autowin roll (I'll be @ UMD +19 then)
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My barbarian 5 / Loving Monolith 3 likes it quite a bit, especially since LM's get it 3/day as a swift action. Before level 6 she was guzzling Enlarge Person potions like they were going out of style. I had planned on going LM for the rest of this character's career, but it's not a horrible splash. The slight loss of BAB makes it somewhat awkward sometimes, but that's only when the character isn't enlarged.
Edit: Some of the prereqs for LM can also be a bit awkward, like taking endurance as a feat and the 1000 gp, so it won't be for everyone.
I'm curious now. What exactly is enlarged on a Loving Monolith? ;-)
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My barbarian 5 / Loving Monolith 3 likes it quite a bit, especially since LM's get it 3/day as a swift action. Before level 6 she was guzzling Enlarge Person potions like they were going out of style. I had planned on going LM for the rest of this character's career, but it's not a horrible splash. The slight loss of BAB makes it somewhat awkward sometimes, but that's only when the character isn't enlarged.
Edit: Some of the prereqs for LM can also be a bit awkward, like taking endurance as a feat and the 1000 gp, so it won't be for everyone.
I'm curious now. What exactly is enlarged on a Loving Monolith? ;-)
I'll tell you when you're older, kiddo.
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My barbarian 5 / Loving Monolith 3 likes it quite a bit, especially since LM's get it 3/day as a swift action. Before level 6 she was guzzling Enlarge Person potions like they were going out of style. I had planned on going LM for the rest of this character's career, but it's not a horrible splash. The slight loss of BAB makes it somewhat awkward sometimes, but that's only when the character isn't enlarged.
Edit: Some of the prereqs for LM can also be a bit awkward, like taking endurance as a feat and the 1000 gp, so it won't be for everyone.
I'm curious now. What exactly is enlarged on a Loving Monolith? ;-)
Play your cards right and you just might find out...
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Enlarge is a nice tool to have handy, but I wouldn't base a whole character around it.
I would totally (and have) base an entire character around it. Very, very rarely will Large size be a problem (Huge on the other hand, I've seen some issues with my druid) and to be honest, when you're strong enough to bench-press a house you can probably take the squeezing penalty for 5-foot hallways without a hitch.
The comparative upsides are tremendous; and you don't HAVE to always Enlarge yourself. The potion suggestion is an excellent idea, especially since you can take the awesome Potion Glutton feat to effortlessly enlarge yourself for a minute for a mere 50 GP a pop. It'll take a long, LONG time at 50 GP a use to ever wind up spending more than you would've on just permanency-ing Enlarge Person in a home game, which is less convenient anyway.
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Meh, no one ever takes him up on it. Maybe he'll find a knife thrower to use it on one day.
As it is, he's only ever used it as a buff for his fire bolt bloodline power.
Knife Master Rogue here who would take you up on this in a heart-beat....
With my Hell-Cat Stealth, the +5 on stealth (+4 size, +1 DEX) would be grand! Knives out of the Light as a Sniper!
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Knife Master Rogue here who would take you up on this in a heart-beat....
With my Hell-Cat Stealth, the +5 on stealth (+4 size, +1 DEX) would be grand! Knives out of the Light as a Sniper!
Truly, you shall be my most favored servant! Prove your worth and when I come into my heritage as a scion of the NOBLE EFREETI there shall be a place for you at my court.
Perhaps "Royal Assassin."
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Meh, no one ever takes him up on it. Maybe he'll find a knife thrower to use it on one day.
As it is, he's only ever used it as a buff for his fire bolt bloodline power.
offer it to the Rogue to boost his Disable Device rolls....
Missed the Disable on a trap with a Take 10? if you didn't set it off, you are close, so see if someone had Reduce Person (to boost your dex) and a guidance... and maybe someone else to aid..... that gives a total +4 and retry it with another Take 10....
Remember that to aid on Disable Device, you need to be able to disable the device in question on your own without help:
In cases where the skill restricts who can achieve certain results, such as trying to open a lock using Disable Device, you can't aid another to grant a bonus to a task that your character couldn't achieve alone.
This was not in question.... but then I often adventure with PCs who have some small skill with devices (thou maybe not with magical traps...)
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Knife Master Rogue here who would take you up on this in a heart-beat....
With my Hell-Cat Stealth, the +5 on stealth (+4 size, +1 DEX) would be grand! Knives out of the Light as a Sniper!
Truly, you shall be my most favored servant! Prove your worth and when I come into my heritage as a scion of the NOBLE EFREETI there shall be a place for you at my court.
Perhaps "Royal Assassin."
ah... not sure what you are suggesting.
Perhaps you should take this up with my Owner?
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ah... not sure what you are suggesting.
Perhaps you should take this up with my Owner?
Fret not! The wealth of the efreeti will soon change his mind!
I am but a lowly slave master, and clearly such matters are beyond me. To promote me to the rank of "servant" would perhaps be reaching above my station. My master, who assigned me to the Pathfinders, would have to tell me of any change in my status. I leave this matter in the Master's hands.
;-)
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The main trick with Enlarge Person is finding the break point for weapons. 1d4 and 1d6 are not worthwhile enlarged. Also, remember that your AC will drop by 2 (1 for -2 Dex and 1 for size).
But any weapon 1d8 or better will have a nice boost when enlarged.
I have a Zen Archer with an Enlarge Person wand and an earthbreaker-wielding Overrun build who carries Enlarge potions. My Abyssal-blooded Bloodrager enlarges when raging--and enlarging with a Lucerne hammer is really nice for the increased reach.
My favorite, though, is my husband's Flowing Monk, enlarged with improved ki throw. He can toss enemies anywhere within his reach.
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Oh another thing EP makes really worthwhile is Orc Hewer. An enlarged dwarf can reach most targets and doesn't need to invest in Giant Killer either. That's two feats(including Strike Back) saved. Makes my Stonelord rather happy and the very situational Goblin Cleaver almost a great feat as well.