How does Outflank & Paired Opportunists work with a ranged attacker


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In this example we have a Zen Archer Monk 4/Sacred-Huntsmaster(Inquisitor)4 with an Animal Companion.

The character has Outflank, Paired Opportunists, & Pack Flanking who shares them with his pet. Since he spent cash to retrain and get Snapshot and Zen Archer gives him PointBlank Master to not provoke, he stands up there with his pet when attacking 5ft away from his enemy. So if his pet scores a critical or gets an AoO the Zen Archer will get a AoO as well.

The pet still gains +4 Flanking from being adjacent to his master and +4 AoO's. Does the Zen Archer also get +4 flanking on his Ranged Attacks?

It seems kinda silly if he can't. I mean he can fire in melee, take AoO's with his Bow and there's no question that he'll get +4 Flanking if he uses his unarmed strike while still holding his bow against someone.


It is silly but no. The Flanking rules only account for melee weapons period, that's it. You do not get flanking bonuses with a ranged weapon. The Monk could use his unarmed strike to get to bonuses though.

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No flanking bonus on ranged attacks.


The feat Enfilading Fire lets you get an attack bonus on ranged attacks from flanking. You don't actually have to be next to the target to get it, either. However, the feat does not specifically say "you are considered flanking", so any other benefits from flanking are questionable at best. (As a GM, I would probably allow it, but I wouldn't count on it in PFS.)

In general, your Zen Archer certainly provides flanking for his friends, and I would consider him flanking for the purposes of teamwork feats, AoOs, etc. So I would said he definitely gets the AoO from Outflank, and he can use Snap Shot to take that AoO, but he doesn't get the +4 to hit on it.

Also, Paired Opportunist and Outflank are difficult to pull off at the same time: you have to be adjacent for Paired Opportunist but flanking for Outflank.

You can make it work if you have at least 2 melee allies and Gang Up, or if one of your allies is a Mouser (swashbuckler archetype). Other than those two tricks, I haven't found a way to get them to work.


Gwen Smith wrote:

The feat Enfilading Fire lets you get an attack bonus on ranged attacks from flanking. You don't actually have to be next to the target to get it, either. However, the feat does not specifically say "you are considered flanking", so any other benefits from flanking are questionable at best. (As a GM, I would probably allow it, but I wouldn't count on it in PFS.)

In general, your Zen Archer certainly provides flanking for his friends, and I would consider him flanking for the purposes of teamwork feats, AoOs, etc. So I would said he definitely gets the AoO from Outflank, and he can use Snap Shot to take that AoO, but he doesn't get the +4 to hit on it.

Also, Paired Opportunist and Outflank are difficult to pull off at the same time: you have to be adjacent for Paired Opportunist but flanking for Outflank.

You can make it work if you have at least 2 melee allies and Gang Up, or if one of your allies is a Mouser (swashbuckler archetype). Other than those two tricks, I haven't found a way to get them to work

a8th level druid with the wolf domain could pull it off :)

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