So far I've seen....

[benjamin wilkins]

Avatar-1 wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

If you ever make a scenario, this should be something one of your villains say. Make the GMs say it, run-as-written-like.

It should be a 1-2 repeatable scenario, where it is spoken by somebody laughably simple to defeat. They should then reappear, grumpy and with a grudge, in an extremely lethal 7-11.

Spoiler:

With a significant bonus against anyone who previously defeated them.

[Joey Haeck]

Thanks so much to everyone in this thread. You've kept me sane and eagerly voting away for these past few weeks. Now I guess it's time to sketch a few more maps in the judges' week. Best of luck to everyone!

[Rose Stack]

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

If I end up on the receiving end of your hatred, I feel like I should at least aid you in your goals.

Probably the worst thing that you could do to me would be to lavish me in rich gifts and money, such that my material wealth clouds my ethical and moral judgment, turning me into the kind of monster that I fear the most. So you know, whatever you do, that's probably the cruelest thing possible. Yup.

[Magesmiley]

Feros wrote:

OK, as promised here are the carefully analyzed breakdowns of the items I've seen and/or recognize for placement purposes. The thing that strikes me immediately is how many earthbreakers made it through the cull (80%).

...

Another way of looking at it would be the survival rates:

Weapons 43.90%
Rings 27.14%
Armors 45.60%
Staves 54.43%
Rods 53.85%
Shields 57.38%

Rings clearly took the brunt of the cull. Ouch.

[Thomas LeBlanc]

I think many of the rings felt more like wondrous items, a couple made it past the cull that as well.

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Now that voting is done. The little special something 4+ people wasted huge amounts of word count is called the reliquary quality for armor, shields, and weapons. At least someone got it right.

[Tosscobble]

I never thought about putting that quality on my armour, but my god I wish I had. As well as uping the daily usage. sigh.....

[Eric Morton]

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Now that voting is done. The little special something 4+ people wasted huge amounts of word count is called the reliquary quality for armor, shields, and weapons. At least someone got it right.

Where is "reliquary" listed as an armor and weapon quality? Your link just takes me to a feat that uses "reliquary" as internal shorthand for some of the feat's unique benefits.

[BLUKnight]

I feel kind of sad that voting is over, I enjoyed reading everyone's comments. This is the first time in a long time where I have felt welcomed on an internet forum that already has an established community, and for that I thank you all.

I'll just have to be patient for the next week. Wheeee~

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Eric Morton wrote:

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Now that voting is done. The little special something 4+ people wasted huge amounts of word count is called the reliquary quality for armor, shields, and weapons. At least someone got it right.

Where is "reliquary" listed as an armor and weapon quality? Your link just takes me to a feat that uses "reliquary" as internal shorthand for some of the feat's unique benefits.

The same way masterwork is a quality.

EDIT: There are no Paizo items published that use reliquary.

[Cylerist]

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[Shadowrun312]

I know its a lot of work but I would love if Paizo could provide a top 100 list of items that may have come close to top 32, like a incentive for those who want to compete next year.

It feel good for many of us out there to know that we had a real chance to make top 32. Personally I don't think anyone would mind if it wasn't in order from like 1st to 100th but just a list of items in the top 100.

However, on the upside we all have had some great items and I look forward to see the rest of the competition even if I don't make it.

[Jacob W. Michaels]

They have traditionally posted the top tier of items (89 in 2013, 100 last year), from which the Top 32 are chosen. I imagine they'll do the same this year.

[Coleman]

Shadowrun312 wrote:

I know its a lot of work but I would love if Paizo could provide a top 100 list of items that may have come close to top 32, like a incentive for those who want to compete next year.

It feel good for many of us out there to know that we had a real chance to make top 32. Personally I don't think anyone would mind if it wasn't in order from like 1st to 100th but just a list of items in the top 100.

However, on the upside we all have had some great items and I look forward to see the rest of the competition even if I don't make it.

They did that last year...they showed the top 100 from which the top 32 were selected. They also did it the year before, although I think the total was 89. I am reasonably sure they'll be doing the same kind of thing this year, although the actual number may vary a bit depending on how the votes worked out and so on.

[Coleman]

Ninjad by Jacob!

[Lyingbastard]

Aw. Looks like mine didn't make it past the cull.

[Monica Marlowe]

I am certain that this thread represents my closeness to being a Champion voter. Somewhere between 4000 and "made it." I opted to take a nap after voting, I also have been feeling off, but thought I could make it. Now the weirdness of not voting sets in. And waiting.

[Monica Marlowe]

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

[sarcasm] I know I for one will remember this moment and if you do make it into the Top 32, I will mercilessly mock and deride your entries regardless of their merit in an effort to preemptively get even with you and your implied slights against me. [ /sarcasm]

[Matt Morris]

Magesmiley wrote:

Feros wrote:

OK, as promised here are the carefully analyzed breakdowns of the items I've seen and/or recognize for placement purposes. The thing that strikes me immediately is how many earthbreakers made it through the cull (80%).

...

Another way of looking at it would be the survival rates:

Weapons 43.90%
Rings 27.14%
Armors 45.60%
Staves 54.43%
Rods 53.85%
Shields 57.38%

Rings clearly took the brunt of the cull. Ouch.

I think rings had a couple things going against them.

Firstly, as others have said, ring was probably the most obvious type for converting wondrous items. Oftentimes, this showed.

Secondly, rings have one of the looser design spaces of the item types in the contest (along with rods). There's a pretty general acceptance of what types of things armor, shields, weapons, and even staves are supposed to do. I don't this that consensus is there for rings. The lack of restriction in function was a big potential pitfall.

I'd be interested to hear what people think makes a ring a ring. The PRD is pretty vague: "Rings bestow magical powers upon their wearers. Only a rare few have charges—most magic rings are permanent and potent magic items." I certainly have some thoughts after this year's voting. What do you folks think is essential to "ring-ness?"

[frank gori]

Lyingbastard wrote:

Aw. Looks like mine didn't make it past the cull.

For some reason I don't believe you...

[frank gori]

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

This is funny, well written, and has a clear "voice." I'd love to see you blog or have you on my company blog. See how you do in Superstar first and good luck...

[Isaac Volynskiy]

I've instituted a $10 limit on my vengeances, personally.

Also, have you tried visiting his profile, Solspiral?

[Tosscobble]

Are we allowed to speculate on who will make it to the next rounds?

[Isaac Volynskiy]

Privately, check out the Keep List Trading thread.

[quibblemuch]

GM_Solspiral wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

This is funny, well written, and has a clear "voice." I'd love to see you blog or have you on my company blog. See how you do in Superstar first and good luck...

Thank you! Do note that a compliment in no way protects you from the havoc promised above, should you advance and I not. It merely means the slightest twinge of regret as I stand amid the ruins of my fury's aftermath - nothing I can't live with, but enough that I can't ignore.

And m'blog, Quibblemuch's Miscellany can be found here.

[quibblemuch]

Petty Alchemy wrote:

I've instituted a $10 limit on my vengeances, personally.

Feh. Kids today, always cheaping out on vengeance. If you want something done right, you gotta pay for it. I once helped Eleanor Roosevelt load up a Pullman car with gold bullion, just to hire Pinkerton men to work over Reed Smoot with koshes. The senator had given her the cut direct at John Rockefeller Jr.'s annual garden party out on West Egg and...

*wanders off, muttering vaguely*

[Nickolas Floyd]

Good luck to all who are being judged.

[R Pickard]

Feros wrote:

Wondrous items (DQ): 4

Yes, I AM a wondrous item indeed, thank you. ;)

[Andrew Black]

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Eric Morton wrote:

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Now that voting is done. The little special something 4+ people wasted huge amounts of word count is called the reliquary quality for armor, shields, and weapons. At least someone got it right.

Where is "reliquary" listed as an armor and weapon quality? Your link just takes me to a feat that uses "reliquary" as internal shorthand for some of the feat's unique benefits.

The same way masterwork is a quality.

EDIT: There are no Paizo items published that use reliquary.

I don't think reliquary counts as a quality the same way as master work. It is not described in the arms and armor sections. This Feat allows a character crafting arms and armor to make a holy symbol out of their creation and it also has a specific effect as a permanent fixture in the makers casting of the spells consecrate or desecrate. I suppose a designer could have made this Feat a construction requirement for items that can also be used as holy symbols, but IMO that is a stretch. However I think this gives rules president to require either of those spells in the construction requirements if the item is going to be a holy symbol and the extra cost might also be considered in the items pricing. Thoughts?

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Andrew Black wrote:

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Eric Morton wrote:

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Now that voting is done. The little special something 4+ people wasted huge amounts of word count is called the reliquary quality for armor, shields, and weapons. At least someone got it right.

Where is "reliquary" listed as an armor and weapon quality? Your link just takes me to a feat that uses "reliquary" as internal shorthand for some of the feat's unique benefits.

The same way masterwork is a quality.

EDIT: There are no Paizo items published that use reliquary.

I don't think reliquary counts as a quality the same way as master work. It is not described in the arms and armor sections. This Feat allows a character crafting arms and armor to make a holy symbol out of their creation and it also has a specific effect as a permanent fixture in the makers casting of the spells consecrate or desecrate. I suppose a designer could have made this Feat a construction requirement for items that can also be used as holy symbols, but IMO that is a stretch. However I think this gives rules president to require either of those spells in the construction requirements if the item is going to be a holy symbol and the extra cost might also be considered in the items pricing. Thoughts?

I was just pointing out the fact that the feat exists. Adding "Craft Reliquary Arms and Shields", along with "consecrate or desecrate" is only 8 words spent towards wordcount and removes lots of useless clutter in an entry. Plus it adds a definitive 250 gp towards pricing to make it easier, another thing those holy symbol items had was pricing problems.

As for the question of it being a quality, Ultimate Magic where it originates did not have any magic arms. The funny thing with the fragile quality, only 2 of the 3 places where it is listed actually call it a quality. Ultimate Equipment in the armor section and Ultimate Combat in the primitive armor and weapons section. In the Ultimate Equipment weapon section, the word quality does not exist.

[quibblemuch]

mamaursula wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

[sarcasm] I know I for one will remember this moment and if you do make it into the Top 32, I will mercilessly mock and deride your entries regardless of their merit in an effort to preemptively get even with you and your implied slights against me. [ /sarcasm]

That seems entirely reasonable. I look forward to it, and can only hope that when I inevitably break down sobbing under the relentless and disproportionate assault, it will be in a public place like a Bennigan's and that I retain no measurable semblance of dignity.

[quibblemuch]

mechaPoet wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

If I end up on the receiving end of your hatred, I feel like I should at least aid you in your goals.

Probably the worst thing that you could do to me would be to lavish me in rich gifts and money, such that my material wealth clouds my ethical and moral judgment, turning me into the kind of monster that I fear the most. So you know, whatever you do, that's probably the cruelest thing possible. Yup.

Funny you should mention that... I did once write an adventure whose Big Bad was a vengeful drow whose plan was to summon a demon and order it to rain gold coins on the city that had wronged her, for a day and a night.

The PCs failed to stop her. Once the rain stopped, everyone in the town thought it was great... until the currency devaluation hit, and they realized that gold isn't in the least bit tasty or nourishing. The subsequent economic collapse ruined the area for generations.

Got to play the long con, sometimes. By which I mean all the time.

Timeo dorkanos, et dona ferentes.
Trans.: I fear geeks, even bearing gifts.

[Brother Fen]

I miss voting and reading snarky comments. :(

[Monica Marlowe]

quibblemuch wrote:

mamaursula wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

[sarcasm] I know I for one will remember this moment and if you do make it into the Top 32, I will mercilessly mock and deride your entries regardless of their merit in an effort to preemptively get even with you and your implied slights against me. [ /sarcasm]

That seems entirely reasonable. I look forward to it, and can only hope that when I inevitably break down sobbing under the relentless and disproportionate assault, it will be in a public place like a Bennigan's and that I retain no measurable semblance of dignity.

I would prefer you have your meltdown here on the forums and fail to remember the hour long edit/delete window so it will be immortalized on the Paizo website. Then in future years I will trot out the link to further your shame and rub salt in the wound, thus ruining both our potential careers as game designers. Or maybe we'll just meet at Bennigan's and have a beer and laugh.

[pH unbalanced]

mamaursula wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

mamaursula wrote:

quibblemuch wrote:

Well, it's been fun. Now it's in the judges' hands.

Before I go, I'd like to say, deeply, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that, if I don't advance to the Top 32, I hate each and every one of you who does. Seriously. I will devote the rest of my dwindling days on this earth to turning your lives into wretched tragic woe-operas of pain and misery. There is no length I will not go to, no plot too convoluted, no expense too great for the vengeance I will bring down upon those who have the temerity to advance if I do not. The ghostly victims of every blood-soaked vendetta in history will fall silent before the grim spectacle of my aggrieved onslaught. It will take years and cost millions of lives and billions in conventional weapons, but I will be requited this snub. You have been warned. It shall be so.

Okay then. I'm off to sketch a few tentative maps.

[sarcasm] I know I for one will remember this moment and if you do make it into the Top 32, I will mercilessly mock and deride your entries regardless of their merit in an effort to preemptively get even with you and your implied slights against me. [ /sarcasm]

That seems entirely reasonable. I look forward to it, and can only hope that when I inevitably break down sobbing under the relentless and disproportionate assault, it will be in a public place like a Bennigan's and that I retain no measurable semblance of dignity.

I would prefer you have your meltdown here on the forums and fail to remember the hour long edit/delete window so it will be immortalized on the Paizo website. Then in future years I will trot out the link to further your shame and rub salt in the wound, thus ruining both our potential careers as game designers. Or maybe we'll just meet at Bennigan's and have a beer and laugh.

Wow. Y'all live in states that still have Bennigan's. Ours all went bankrupt several years ago.

[He'sDeadJim]

I'd be interested to hear what people think makes a ring a ring. The PRD is pretty vague: "Rings bestow magical powers upon their wearers. Only a rare few have charges—most magic rings are permanent and potent magic items." I certainly have some thoughts after this year's voting. What do you folks think is essential to "ring-ness?"

I would say that rings in general should be considered (except for a few) to be some of the most powerful non-artifact items in the game (Ring of Invisibility, Ring of Wizardry, Ring of Regeneration, all 4 Rings of Elemental Command).

Also, they are usually designed so that anybody with a finger can wear and use one. The only limitation is they have a max of 2 usable per person (I'm not mentioning the few exceptions obviously). Also, low level PCs can't afford most magic rings. Most Magic item crafters can't craft them till higher levels anyway if I remember correctly either. They are usually one of the last magic item slots filled as well if you don't count rings of protection +1 (Which I don't).

IMHO a good magic ring with the right power (Invisibility is only a second level spell!) can make a character or break a game. Ever wonder why GMs give PCs more +1 Vicious weapons than Rings of Regeneration or Invisibility?

Example: I was playing in the Reign of Winter recently (Warning: minor spoiler ahead) and there is a treasure room near the PCs 5th character level that contains what "appears" to be a Ring of Regeneration. I knew instantly (Yes, I was meta-gaming without meaning to do so) we were no where near high enough level to get a Ring of Regeneration! It had to be a trap...and it was. My friend put it on (He knew it was probably a trap too, but he hates meta-gaming his PCs) and...so on.

Hope this makes sense...I'm tired...

[Brother Fen]

I only saw a handful of rings that caught my interest. I can only think of two that made my keep list. Perhaps rings were the "hard mode" so many were searching for.

[quibblemuch]

mamaursula wrote:

I would prefer you have your meltdown here on the forums and fail to remember the hour long edit/delete window so it will be immortalized on the Paizo website. Then in future years I will trot out the link to further your shame and rub salt in the wound, thus ruining both our potential careers as game designers. Or maybe we'll just meet at Bennigan's and have a beer and laugh.

Hmmm... maybe we could compromise and I could post a link to the shaky viral phone video of the meltdown, accompanying a "here's what you made me do" rant-post of epic self-pity?

Re Bennigan's: Is this some elaborate machiavellian charade designed to humiliate me with the wrong soup order?

[Monica Marlowe]

pH unbalanced wrote:

mamaursula wrote:

I would prefer you have your meltdown here on the forums and fail to remember the hour long edit/delete window so it will be immortalized on the Paizo website. Then in future years I will trot out the link to further your shame and rub salt in the wound, thus ruining both our potential careers as game designers. Or maybe we'll just meet at Bennigan's and have a beer and laugh.

Wow. Y'all live in states that still have Bennigan's. Ours all went bankrupt several years ago.

Sadly, no, I was just hoping to go hang out with Quibblemuch :-)