to deflect / destroy enemy arrow with my own


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ok i have a player lvl 20 archer that wants to show off:
and to prove himself in front of the king he challenged the king's best archer to fire an arrow at him, at 60ft distance, at this point he will prove himself by trying to knock/deflect/destroy the oponent arrow that is flying towards him in mid-air, now question is, what are the dc/saves that should be done for this task?

i was thinking first he must have a initiative or reflex to check if he can react in time but what is the DC?, then he has a second check probably an attack roll against an incoming arrow, which i assume as a thin size target, but what AC should it be?

thx


As far as I know, there is no mechanic that allows you to attack an in-flight arrow with another arrow and deflect it.


i know there is noun, thats why i wanted to ask what rule should i impose for this challenge :P

ps: lovely bacon avatar :3 omnomnomnomnom


This should go in the houserules section then, I think is what blahpers was getting at.

Frankly, I'd rule this impossible.


Yeah, I was answering from a "what are the rules" standpoint.

From a house-rules standpoint, I'm not certain. This acts something like the Deflect Arrows feat and something like the duelist's parry (or the swashbuckler's opportunistic parry) abilities, but at range rather than in melee. That would be significantly harder. And that's as far as I can go without knowing the general feel of the table.

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You're looking for a rules answer to this question.

There isn't one.

I would say that at the very least, the DC will be twice the opponent's roll to hit. with a minimum roll of 30 to hit. (it's a very small surface moving damm fast)

And if he fails to hit the arrow will strike him as if he was effectively denied his Dex. His arrow will strike at the other shooter using the normal to hit rules.

That's why Robin Hood, the greatest archer in the Kingdom, did not choose this method of showing off.


humm i see sry for the wrong section posting :( i shall change th section of the post, although i dont know how to change section :P, and thx for the advice. :P

ps: he choose that cuz of the robocop scene :P where he deflected incoming bullets with his own :D


Spoiler Alert!

Yeah, I know it doesn't work after.


I would only allow this in the context of a contest like this, not in real, pitched combat. I would just treat it as an opposed attack roll, possibly with a penalty for the archer trying to hit the first one's arrow.


Ok, so, apparently, you don't need to make something up, he just needs to be a Toxophilite Ranger.


Ha! Well, there you go.

Though this once again rouses my disdain for making phenomenal but mundane feats available only to particular archetypes.


Well, deflect arrows plus Point-Blank Mastery plus ignoring the whole "have to have a hand free" would...well it would still be a house rule, but a pretty easy one.

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mplindustries wrote:
Ok, so, apparently, you don't need to make something up, he just needs to be a Toxophilite Ranger.

Sometimes, when you have an obscure word sitting on your desk, there's nothing for it but to make an archetype around it.


i cant believe they made a variant just for this ability -.-', and that name... who the hell made that name?


It's Greek. In the strategy game Age of Mythology, the Greek archers are called Toxotes. Apart from that, I have no idea whether there's any historical precedent for the shooting arrows out of midair thing.


Toxophilite is an English word. Or, well, it's originally from Greek, but it's English now. It's just someone that loves archery. You know, like how philosophy is originally a love of wisdom. Toxotes is archer just like sophia is wisdom.

But yes, it's a bizarre name to use in Golarion, it's bizarre that in order to love archery and devote yourself to it in this way that you must be an archer, and it's most bizarre to me that the ability to shoot arrows with your arrows seems to work more like the old Duelist's ability to parry, rather than the new Swashbuckler's.


what i dont understand is the need to create a class/archtype just for this, guess ill have to tell the other player that only this class can do it :P


There's a LOT of that question in PF. Nature of the class/level beast.

Alternately, you could do like I do for 'feats that let you do weird things with a skill check involved' ... anybody can do it, but up the DC by 5 (or some other number that makes you happy).


ok zhayne thx

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