how do you bypass DR X / -?


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This came up during a recent game session. I was under the assumption any +1 or higher weapon could.


You don't.

Edit: Minor correction, you do if you Smite.


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Elemental damage, Smite, abilities that pool attacks before applying DR, Penetrating strike.

+1 weapon does not overcome it. That would be DR X/magic


Spells or non-magical energy attacks.


Martial Artist monks can bypass DR/-, also.


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You need to have Greater Penetrating Strike to overcome DR/-, and it only overcomes 5 points of it.


All of these sans the Martial Artist thing (and by extension Steelbreaker Brawler, which has the same ability) are misleading. None of the above BYPASS DR/-, they merely mitigate and/or don't interact with it in the first place.


Several mythic abilities as well.

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Actually, the simplest way to deal with DR X/- is by doing enough damage to get through it....

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kinevon wrote:
Actually, the simplest way to deal with DR X/- is by doing enough damage to get through it....

Yep, this. Just hit it hard enough that the paltry amount of damage pealed off the strike by the DR still leaves the monster curb-stomped into oblivion by the amount that did get through....

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kinevon wrote:
Actually, the simplest way to deal with DR X/- is by doing enough damage to get through it....

Two-Handed Weapon: Strength 18 (+6 damage) & Power Attack (-1 hit for +3 damage) = 1d?+9 damage.

As you level, make the 2H weapon out of Adamantine, and wear a silver cestus on one hand and a cold iron cestus on the other hand. Enchant them to +1 to bypass /magic DR. Enchant the silver cestus chaos/good and the cold iron cestus law/good to bypass /alignment DR.

Although this more advice, not rules.


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kinevon wrote:
Actually, the simplest way to deal with DR X/- is by doing enough damage to get through it....

The quickest way to a man's heart is through his sternum.

Scarab Sages

_Ozy_ wrote:
Spells or non-magical energy attacks.

Yes, DR only works against things that aren't the above.

DR/magic just means that physical attacks from magic weapons bypass the DR in addition to Spells or energy attacks (fire, acid, and so forth).

So flaming weapon still get's the d6 flame damage that goes through the DR/-


Murdock Mudeater wrote:
_Ozy_ wrote:
Spells or non-magical energy attacks.

Yes, DR only works against things that aren't the above.

DR/magic just means that physical attacks from magic weapons bypass the DR in addition to Spells or energy attacks (fire, acid, and so forth).

So flaming weapon still get's the d6 flame damage that goes through the DR/-

which is why a linch mob going after that flesh gloem \vampire is not complete without them TORCHS !!

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zza ni wrote:
which is why a linch mob going after that flesh gloem \vampire is not complete without them TORCHS !!

...and pitchforks. They bypass DR 5/piercing.


Daneel wrote:
zza ni wrote:
which is why a linch mob going after that flesh gloem \vampire is not complete without them TORCHS !!
...and pitchforks. They bypass DR 5/piercing.

IIRC there's only like two monsters with DR X/piercing.

Clubs and sickles are way more useful.


Crit with lvl 14 inquisitor.
Martial Artist is already being said about.

Scarab Sages

Clustered Shots and Pummeling Style is good as well.


The short answer is, you cannot bypass DR /-. That's the point of it, it's (nearly) impossible to subvert.

Bypassing DR with a magic weapon applies only to DR X/Magic, which is different from /-. Of course, sufficiently enchanted weapons can bypass other types of DR such as cold iron, silver, adamantine, and good/evil/law/chaos. But none of these are DR/-.

Now, all that said there are some very specific classes and powers that do allow you to mitigate or "bypass" DR /-.

Smite is an example which bypasses all DR.
Clustered Shots and Pummeling Style pool all damage into a single attack and DR is applied only once against the total damage.
Martial Artist Monk get an ability that ignores DR.

I'm sure that they are more, but these are exceptions to the general rule that DR/- cannot be bypassed. Specific always trumps general.

But in lieu of specific abilities, it cannot be bypassed.


Claxon wrote:

The short answer is, you cannot bypass DR /-. That's the point of it, it's (nearly) impossible to subvert.

Bypassing DR with a magic weapon applies only to DR X/Magic, which is different from /-. Of course, sufficiently enchanted weapons can bypass other types of DR such as cold iron, silver, adamantine, and good/evil/law/chaos. But none of these are DR/-.

Now, all that said there are some very specific classes and powers that do allow you to mitigate or "bypass" DR /-.

Smite is an example which bypasses all DR.
Clustered Shots and Pummeling Style pool all damage into a single attack and DR is applied only once against the total damage.
Martial Artist Monk get an ability that ignores DR.

I'm sure that they are more, but these are exceptions to the general rule that DR/- cannot be bypassed. Specific always trumps general.

But in lieu of specific abilities, it cannot be bypassed.

I second this very clear post by Claxon. I will say though that elemental damage WILL bypass damage reduction, but that is only because damage reduction only works against physical damage.


Right, which is why energy resistances exist.


Unless stated otherwise by a monster ability or other means, bleed damage bypasses DR/-. You still have to be able to inflict that bleed rider though, which usually requires you to deal enough damage to get at least one point of damage past the DR.

Sovereign Court

For some reason this thread reminds me of the classic joke ...

How do you shoot a blue elephant?

With a blue elephant gun!

How do you bypass DR X /?

With a DR X/ gun!


SMASH moar? :)


High crit range and a large static damage will do you much better all round than trying to overcome one particular type of DR IMHO.
You can never had enough weapons to hand to bypass them all.

The other answer is be a Magus. I hit for 1d6+9 with my scimitar and cast empowered, maximised shocking grasp using perfect spell and magical lineage to deal 60 more damage. Double it all on a crit.
Then I do the rest of my attacks before casting quickened empowred shocking grasp for another few points of damage.


Barathos wrote:
Daneel wrote:
zza ni wrote:
which is why a linch mob going after that flesh gloem \vampire is not complete without them TORCHS !!
...and pitchforks. They bypass DR 5/piercing.

IIRC there's only like two monsters with DR X/piercing.

Clubs and sickles are way more useful.

Well, there are a lot of things with piercing AND slashing, and there is an entire class of fiends, the rakshasa, which have piercing as one of their shticks.

But yeah, with the overall sentiment- piercing seems more like it was originally meant to be a nerf. Piercing is on- arrows (archery is overpowered, longspear (the one simple reach weapon), and rapiers (the only finessable 18-20 weapon rogues have). Also note- there are no simple slashing weapons that can be 2 handed. There are bludgeoning weapons, which is because DR/bludgeoning is too big of a deal to not give that when skeletons, an almost iconic low level enemy, has that DR; slashing can be removed to make simple weapons 'worse' to a small degree. Not saying this was a good move, but one that was kept since it made enough sense that people didn't want to incur wrath for changing it.

Anyway, for the original question- as many have said, the only options are either to find something that would get past any DR, or just blast through it. It is not the 'find a clever solution' DR, it is 'I need this boss to last for another couple rounds' DR.


The Human Diversion wrote:

How do you bypass DR X /?

With a DR X/ gun!

Firearms OP Pls Nerf.

:)

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