Scion of Humanity (Aasimar)

[Driver_325yards]

If Aasimars are already human, what is the point of Scion of Humanity?

[Nefreet]

They aren't Human. They're Native Outsiders.

[Driver_325yards]

You say that with such confidence that you must be right.

That said, the first sentence for Aasimar says "Aasimars are humans with a significant amount of celestial or other good outsider blood in their ancestry."

[Driver_325yards]

Nevermind. I see the Type is Native Outsider. At least it is confusing at initial glance

[blackbloodtroll]

Aasimar can also be borne of any Humanoid race.

They are still Native Outsiders though.

[Nyaa]

Google thinks it's the latest thread on Scion of Humanity after September 2013. So, does that FAQ apply to Aasimars with Scion of Humanity?

[HectorVivis]

I would say that if you have the type, you can pretty much take it. Same with Racial Heritage. I rule it like that at least. Same for drows, I allow them to take elven feats.

I would like to hear some other people on that too.

[James Risner]

Nyaa wrote:

Google thinks it's the latest thread on Scion of Humanity after September 2013. So, does that FAQ apply to Aasimars with Scion of Humanity?

If by apply you mean that you can take Human things as a Human does after taking Scion of Humanity? Yes.

[Nefreet]

Does that FAQ apply to Aasimars?

No.

Can Aasimars with Scion of Humanity take Human FCBs anyways?

Yes.

[Kazaan]

They may be born of Humans, but how you qualify for feats and other rules elements based on race isn't based on who you're born to but, rather, the more mechanically rigorous type and subtype system. In order to count as Human, you need the Human subtype. Aasimar born to Humans may be "called" Humans, but that doesn't make them mechanically count as such. Half-Elves, on the other hand, have the Human subtype by default. So even a Half-Elf who is particularly close to their Elven side (ie. child of a Half-Elf and an Elf) still counts as Human mechanically. But an Aasimar's outsider heritage is too strong and blots out the Humanoid heritage unless they take the Scion of Humanity alternate trait which allows them to mechanically count as both an Outsider(Native) as well as a Humanoid(Human) (or, arguably, Humanoid(some other type) in the case of non-Human-born Aasimar).