Mythic Haste Full-Round Actions

[Ssyvan]

So Mythic Haste grants an additional move action, but I'm wondering if you full-attacks are you able to then move afterwords?

prd wrote:

Full-Round Action: A full-round action consumes all your effort during a round. The only movement you can take during a full-round action is a 5-foot step before, during, or after the action. You can also perform free actions and swift actions (see below). See Table: Actions in Combat for a list of full-round actions.

This would mean I can't?

[Mike J]

I think you get to move. The Full-Round Action wording assumes the general: you get one move, one standard, and one swift action. Mythic Haste is more specific and grants an additional move action that you can use as you see fit. Specific > general. That's how I read it.

[Ssyvan]

Thanks Mike J. While I understand the specific vs. general thing, in this case there is nothing specific to doing more actions when performing a full-round action. So a full-round action should still take a full-round to complete, and thus you can't move after performing one?

[Seannoss]

With the power of the mythic rules I suspect the intent is actually to give an extra move action, in addition to everything else. So a character could move and then do a full round action.

[Ssyvan]

So in that case could I combine Mythic Haste and Amazing Initiative to perform two full-round actions in a round?

[Seannoss]

I would say no. Then again, I also (possibly) nerfed mythic haste so that people couldn't use that move and a full round action. But I think that most things mythic should be toned down or just ignore mythic rules entirely.

[Ssyvan]

Cool, thanks for your input Seannoss! I don't think it's really a nerf, as there are still a bunch of very useful things that move action could be used for. But it seems reasonable to me that full-round actions take a full-round unless expressly stated otherwise.

[Artoo]

It's worth noting that the wording under the heading of full round actions, rather than under the heading of action types is slightly different and may clarify things slightly:

PRD wrote:

A full-round action requires an entire round to complete. Thus, it can't be coupled with a standard or a move action, though if it does not involve moving any distance, you can take a 5-foot step.

A lot of people seem to assume that a full-round action uses a standard and a move action. But that's not actually stated anywhere. Strict RAW you can not make any move or standard actions on the same round as you take a full-round action.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if whoever wrote mythic haste wasn't entirely aware of that particular wording and quite possibly intended for it to allow a move action plus a full round action, but that's just a guess.

[Ssyvan]

Thanks Artoo, that's pretty much exactly what I was looking for!