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WOOT!!
As a fan of the Bond franchise, news of the latest movie's title makes me happy!!! Love me some classic Bond villains!
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Yay! This has so much potential. Let's see a return of Oddjob and Goldfinger, Mr Wint and mr Kidd, Mr Stromberg, miss Onnatop, and the rest of the crowd.
ATAC TO ST CYRIL'S!!! ATAC TO ST CYRIL'S!!!
Finally happy were going to see Spectre used in this version of bond. I know the first two movies were leading up to it but the third one just dropped it and went a different direction.
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I don't think that was a bad decision, Dragon.
It was the Grand Dame's last hurrah as M, and I think introducing SPECTRE into the mix would have detracted from that.
That said, I'm excited. I called Casino Royale "Bond Begins" for obvious reasons - hopefully, this will be "Blofeld Begins!"
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Any James Bonding fans? They had an episode today all about the Spectre announcement and Matt Gourley had an interesting theory.
I'm not sure I buy it myself, but it's an interesting theory.
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From this trailer it appears that my speculation may prove to be true.
That QUANTUM, while global and well funded and politically sophisticated in its own way, was merely but a small consortium under the much larger leadership of SPECTRE.
Ah SPECTRE, the evil organization that HYDRA moms would tell their children about to scare them to bed.
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From this trailer it appears that my speculation may prove to be true.
That QUANTUM, while global and well funded and politically sophisticated in its own way, was merely but a small consortium under the much larger leadership of SPECTRE.
Ah SPECTRE, the evil organization that HYDRA moms would tell their children about to scare them to bed.
Cleaner version of that trailer.
Actually the trailer from March I posted seems much better quality and editing, I am very excited for this movie though.
Rawr.
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ANYWAY...
I loved the variation on the theme from On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Still one of the best Bond films.
Great Catch!
So, we've got the return of Spectre and (quite likely) Blofeld.
We're going back to the Alps.
We've got a riff on the OHMSS theme.
and to top it all off, we've got that bullet-through-glass logo...
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I am also very excited. And I've been getting others excited about it as well. Especially one co-worker - he was extremely pleased to hear that Monica Belluci is going to be the lead Bond Girl.
Yeah, not so much.
Worst theme song in any bond movie. Decent film. 7/10.
No kidding. That theme made me switch from indifferent about Sam Smith to incandescent hatred of all his works.
The rest of the movie ranged from okay to great, however. Nothing quite up to the "spectacular" rating I'd give Casino Royale, but definitely worth seeing.
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Better than Skyfall, not as good as Casino Royale.
It was on it's way to be as good as Casino Royale, but the last 15-20 minutes robbed it, imho.
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The cinematography was fantastic, from the first, impossible shot, to the encounter in Rome, and then to the fights in London.
Question, though: What did old-M think would happen, if Bond just goes out and kills somebody without warrant? The perp happened to have been planning an enormous crime, and Bond just happened to get evidence of that. Otherwise, SPECTRE would have included an hour and a half of Bond sitting in a prison.
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I agree with the 7/10 rating. It's a good film, but suffers from the fact that it's just nearly as good as Casino Royale or Skyfall. It's #3 in the rankings of Craig films thus far, but that seems overly harsh when you can also say it's just above Quantum of Solace. That movie was terrible, and this one is definitely much better. Go see it, you won't begrudge spending your money.
That first shot that Chris mentions also blew me away - I loved that this take just kept going and going. I know it has to have had some stealth edits just to make it look like it was one shot, when it's really comprised of multiple takes, but that doesn't ruin the magic of it in my opinion. It's amazing.
Bautista was great as Hynx. He was definitely a massive threat to Bond, being physically unstoppable, mentally unbreakable, and fashionably attired. My main complaint is that since we never really saw a body, I wanted him to come back at the end - seems a wasted opportunity.
I simultaneously loved and hated Waltz as Blofeld. Make no mistake, Waltz gives a deliciously evil portrayal of the man. His plot to silently gain access to all of the national intelligence agencies was interesting, even though it was clearly Spectre's plot from the start. I strongly question why any of the agencies would turn over their information willingly, even if they thought this private initiative could do better than them. Regardless, I enjoyed how amiable he was - just because he was doing terrible things doesn't mean he has to twirl a mustache.
What I did hate was tying his backstory into Bond's. Why does Blofeld have to know Bond? He's evil because James came into his life and Daddy loved Bond more than Blofeld? That's petty, and cheapens the man. I also kinda wish that Blofeld escaped at the end of the movie, rather than get captured.
So, Bond girls. The Craig stories haven't really had a good one since Vesper, and this one's no exception. Monica Bellucci had next to no role in this one, and she was critically underused. The other one, Lea Seydoux, I'm undecided. I liked her up until the very end, when she became a hostage and the reason that Bond seems to have left MI6. I buy that Vesper was the motivation to keep killing in Her Majesty's name. I don't buy that Madeleine is the reason he stops. I'm hoping that Craig comes back one more time, as does Waltz as Blofeld, and he kills her, making the story revolve around Bond's vendetta.
The MI6 cast is wonderfully used in this film, and I really hope this becomes a trend in the films. The only issue is that it therefore requires the plot to always come back to London at some point, so M, Q, Moneypenny and Tanner can interact with the plot other than act as exposition dispensers. Also, I was expecting Moneypenny's boyfriend to be C. They didn't show us his face, which is usually a clear hint that the director wants to save that reveal for later dramatic effect, and the two shared a look outside of the chambers that suggested there was more between them than business acquaintances. I thought it would have been an interesting way to suggest that that was how C got the info on Moneypenny, though I suppose her boyfriend could have been working for C. Seems unnecessary for plot purposes, though, even if that makes tactical sense.
All in all, as I said above, it's not quite as good as the two Craig tours de force, but miles above the abysmal Quantum of Solace.
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What I did hate was tying his backstory into Bond's. Why does Blofeld have to know Bond? He's evil because James came into his life and Daddy loved Bond more than Blofeld? That's petty, and cheapens the man. I also kinda wish that Blofeld escaped at the end of the movie, rather than get captured.
I half agree with your statement. I could see Blofeld and Bond knowing one another when younger, but I CANNOT buy into them growing up together as kids after the death of Bond's parents.
I also wish Blofeld had escaped. It would have been so cool if Bond would have opened the door and found the chopper empty. In the old movies, Blofeld always had an escape plan.
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I enjoyed this film a lot. I think it had all the strengths of the previous Craig era bond films and few if any of their weaknesses. Could work as a cap to the Craig era or set up another film nicely either way.
As for Sam Smith, I knew exactly what to expect so it was far less jarring for me. In fact, I felt he did a good job considering most bond themes are awful. /shrug
Who ranked this #3, RT?
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Nobody official that I've seen - that #3 ranking I give it is 100% personal. That said, if this is the final Craig film, then I'll fight anyone who tries to put it below Quantum or above the other two overall. There's a lot to recommend in the film, but there are some missteps in it as well that hold it back from the greatness of the other two. I think people could make cases for whether Casino Royale or Skyfall is the best Craig film. Hell, I go back and forth on that myself. They're both REALLY good.
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Interesting I didnt think skyfall was very good at all. I liked Casino Royale, but felt it was paced terribly and probably a little too long. I felt that Spectre was the strongest craig era film from a traditional Bond feel which I guess is why I liked it so much. I am probably giving it an undue boost because I disliked Skyfall and am glad to see a better follow up (IMO of course)
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God. One of the worst movies I've seen in years. Fell asleep at some point in the middle. Boring, overlong and nonsensical to boot. Also tried really freakin hard to be Captain America: The Winter Soldier and failed miserably (I mean hack, it didn't stop with having an almost identical plot, it had to go with even using the line "out of the darkness and into the light" at one point). Also, surprise hantai in the opening credits was not appreciated.
So far Casino Royale is the only DC bond movie I liked. Quantum was unmitigated dreck, and Skyfall went from oh-so-cutesy-clever to purely melodramatic, and was WAY too full of itself.
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Wife and I finally saw it last night. It was....entertaining. Better than Quantum of Solace, but nowhere near as good as Casino Royale.
Theme song sucked hairy goat balls. I didn't recognize the singer's name.
Loved the white cat.
Loved Blofeld's crater headquarters. Bond villains should always have over the top awesome secret lairs.
The dastardly plot was...meh.
I wish Monica Belluci would have been in more of the movie. Although, the chick playing Swann was more than easy on the eyes.
I loved Mr. Hinx. I just wish they had used him a bit more, and not killed him. Sure, we didn't "see a body", so to speak. But he did get pulled off a moving train.....
Ultimately, I still think Casino was the best Daniel Craig Bond movie (and one of the best Bond movies of all). Each of the others has little bits and pieces I thought were awesome, and they were entertaining enough, but nowhere near as good as they could have been.
Finally saw Spectre. The first half was very promising, despite the CGI collapsing buildings that apparently spew enormous clouds of CGI dust that Craig inhales without coughing, and CGI masonry that falls on his head only to vanish at the last second without his noticing it was there.
I'm willing to overlook that because of the awesome car chase in Rome.
I can't forgive the entire second half of the film for being nothing but pure unadulterated hokey cliches without a break. Typecasting Andrew Scott as the creepy bad guy from "Sherlock" -- bad call. Blofeld's backstory -- stoooooooooooopid crap I'd expect from "Days of Our Lives." Dark Knight ripoff house of horrors hastily assembled for no purpose other than to post dumb pictures of people for Bond to see as some kind of "deep psychological taunt" or whatever?
And the kicker:
Probably the single most insulting hour of cinema I've ever sat through.
Part of the problem with the Daniel Craig movies is that they feel like they're trying too hard to be these epic saga's.
Casino Royale felt like 1 and 1/3 of a movie.
Quantum of Solace... well, just wasn't good.
Skyfall felt like 2 movies.
Spectre felt like a trilogy.
They need to simplify their plots, boil it down to a purer essence, then add a twist. Instead, they make a whole plot, add a twist at the end that leads to an entirely new plot. I have this problem in general the past 10 years, I wish Hollywood would relearn how to make a 90 minute action movie.
It feels like the new Bonds just don't know when to end.
I enjoyed Spectre, but only barely.
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I seldom come out hard against movies that I dont like. I just usually dont talk about them and try to ignore them but SPECTRE was not only a bad Bond movie but a bad movie all around.
Three espionage/spy movies (maybe even four...) came out that year and they were ALL better than SPECTRE, including the comedy one with Melissa McCarthy, SPY.
KINGSMAN, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: ROGUE NATION, BRIDGE OF SPIES and SPY were all better movies than SPECTRE. I'll go on record that while far from perfect even THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E. was better than SPECTRE.
And I like Daniel Craig as Bond but by the time they make it to *name redacted* secret base I could honestly given a crap as to what would happen next. Best part of the movie was the opening (false hope that the rest of it was going to as good. NOPE.) and then the fight on the train. I rate it just below QUANTUM OF SOLACE I dislike it that much.
I didn't haven't watched Spy or any of the MI films, and feel no real desire to do so. I do eventually want to see Kingsmen, as I've heard it was pretty good.
I liked Quantum of Solace. In fact, I prefer it to Skyfall.
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Well, since we're bringing this movie back into the ether, I'm just glad we finally have spectre back in the rights. They may have blown it with the Craig era, an era that started with quantum being a lesser replacement for the group.
In a few years when we get a new Bond, the new helmsmen can bring in spectre from day 1 and we can have a real enemy org again.
And then they'll remake thunderball again...
Haven't seen it since the theater, but I thought it was a solid movie. One stupid thing, for me:
And the big other:
Otherwise, though, I thought it was pretty well back to the way a Bond movie ought to feel, more or less.
If nothing else, it's the best role Dave Bautista will ever have. Suited him perfectly:
So ready for a new Bond actor, though.
So ready for a new Bond actor, though.
Apparently so is Daniel Craig, who's been known to remark that he'd rather slash hist wrists than make another Bond film.