Shielded fighter

[Micheal Smith]

I have a question about the ability altogether.

I read it that I can have both a shield and a sword equipped and attack with either as if they were in the main hand. Meaning I get my full attack bonus to hitting with either weapon and get full damage with either weapon I use?

So example:
Let's say I am 5th lvl
Long sword +10 1D8+7
Heavy shield +10 1D4+6

If I'm a standard fighter would look like this (TWF)
Long sword +6 1D8+7
Heavy shield +5 1D4+3
(I may be off a number of 2, still learning all the penalties and all)

But if I'm a shielded fighter without TWF it would like:
Long sword +10 1D8+7
Heavy shield +10 1D4+6
Right?

[Imbicatus]

If you have a shield in one hand and a longsword in the other, you can make an attack with either the shield or longsword at no penalty. The only time off-hand penalties apply is if you are using the two-weapon fighting action to gain a second attack with your off hand weapon.

That said, I have no idea why your shield damage is one less than your longsword damage but your attack bonus is the same. It looks like you have some errors in your numbers somewhere. Weapon training would make the sword do more damage, but it should be more accurate as well.

[Tarantula]

I'm trying to figure out your question. I am thinking it comes from the 5th level shielded fighter ability "shield fighter".

Quote:

Shield Fighter (Ex): At 5th level, a shielded fighter gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls when making a shield bash. These bonuses increase by +1 every four levels beyond 5th. With a full attack action, a shielded fighter may alternate between using his weapon or his shield for each attack. This action does not grant additional attacks or incur penalties as two-weapon fighting does. This ability replaces weapon training 1.

The bolded part of the ability is actually something any character can do. A 6th level paladin with attacks at +6/+1 could make his +6 with a sword, and his +1 with a shield, and not be two weapon fighting.

Likewise, a fighter could do the same. Shield fighter is just reminding you that this is an option. The shield fighter could also just choose to bash with his shield for each attack.

[Micheal Smith]

Tarantula wrote:

I'm trying to figure out your question. I am thinking it comes from the 5th level shielded fighter ability "shield fighter".

Quote:

Shield Fighter (Ex): At 5th level, a shielded fighter gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls when making a shield bash. These bonuses increase by +1 every four levels beyond 5th. With a full attack action, a shielded fighter may alternate between using his weapon or his shield for each attack. This action does not grant additional attacks or incur penalties as two-weapon fighting does. This ability replaces weapon training 1.

The bolded part of the ability is actually something any character can do. A 6th level paladin with attacks at +6/+1 could make his +6 with a sword, and his +1 with a shield, and not be two weapon fighting.

Likewise, a fighter could do the same. Shield fighter is just reminding you that this is an option. The shield fighter could also just choose to bash with his shield for each attack.

So it would be 6 because strength is +4 then add the fact that it is a +1 weapon and then the ability that gives the bonus to hit and damage.

I guess it's the last sentence that through me off a bit. Talking how it doesn't incir the penalties that TWF does.

[Tarantula]

Ok, so 6th level figher with BAB of +6. With a full-attack he can attack at +6 and +1. No character is required to use the same weapon for both attacks.

The fighter could use a sword for +6 and a shield bash for +1. Or Shield for +6 and sword for +1. Or sword for +6 and spiked armor for +1. Or Unarmed strike +6 and boot blade +1. Doesn't matter. Any weapon for any BAB attack.

TWF gives you an extra attack and splits your attacks to Primary and Off hands.

[RegUS PatOff]

It's a little complex, but take the whole ability in context:

Shield Fighter (Ex):

: At 5th level, a shielded fighter gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls when making a shield bash. These bonuses increase by +1 every four levels beyond 5th. With a full attack action, a shielded fighter may alternate between using his weapon or his shield for each attack. This action does not grant additional attacks or incur penalties as two-weapon fighting does. This ability replaces weapon training 1.

6th level fighter choices are:
+6 Sword/+1 Sword
+6 Sword/+2 Shield Bash (+1 damage)
+7 Shield Bash (+1 damage)/+1 Sword
+7 Shield Bash (+1 damage)/+2 Shield Bash (+1 damage)

The point about the no additional attacks & no two-weapon fighting penalties is in context of the 5th level bonus.