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Silver Crusade

Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Orfamay Quest wrote:
Undead Leon Czolgosz wrote:

Most strands of anarchism (dudes mentioned above and their followers, Black Bloc-types, anarcho-syndicalists, liberals with fits of delusion like Chomsky, etc.), though, are without a doubt "far left."

I'd need more than your unsupported say-so on that, I'm afraid. Even your Wikipedia article describes Rothbard as closer to hard right than hard left.

Agreed. As Comrade Jeff says, I meant to say that all anarchists* are Far Left except for Murray Rothbard who, as near as I can tell, tried to steal the label "anarchist" from the Left in the same way that Hayek stole the term "libertarian" from us (well, not me, I'm still holding out for the dictatorship of the proletariat) earlier.

This thread, and Harry Reid's (? I think, maybe someone else) histrionics earlier this year (last year?) sadly suggest that Murray was somewhat successful.

:(

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*Possible exceptions for weirdo "individualists" that I am unfamiliar with.

Hey Anklebiter - are you AnCom?


No, I'm a Trot. You?

Silver Crusade

Without adjectives.


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Irontruth wrote:
Giving the government authority over religion is just inviting the government to tell you that you're worshiping wrong. It seems like they haven't figured this out yet,

“'Government cannot be religious and self-assertive at the same time. Religious experience needs a spontaneity which laws inevitably suppress. And you cannot govern without laws. Your laws eventually must replace morality, replace conscience, replace even the religion by which you think to govern. Sacred ritual must spring from praise and holy yearnings which hammer out a significant morality. Government, on the other hand, is a cultural organism particularly attractive to doubts, questions and contentions. I see the day coming when ceremony must take the place of faith and symbolism replaces morality.’” - Lady Jessica

So says my mother


thejeff wrote:
|dvh| wrote:
So we're in agreement then that the US' majority far-right and right-center parties are both garbage then?

No. I think there's a strong minority opinion that the US' majority far-right and far-left parties are both garbage.

More seriously, I think that the Democratic party is salvageable. It's kind of a wreck, but more of a fixer-upper than a tearer-downer. At least I think that fixing it is far more possible than replacing it.

Along those lines, Bernie Sanders has been making serious moves towards a Presidential campaign. Which will be interesting, even if he doesn't win the nomination.

Modern Dems aren't far left. They aren't even left of center when you compare them to political parties in Europe. There are a handful of exceptions, but they aren't getting new legislation past any time soon.


Caineach wrote:
thejeff wrote:
|dvh| wrote:
So we're in agreement then that the US' majority far-right and right-center parties are both garbage then?
No. I think there's a strong minority opinion that the US' majority far-right and far-left parties are both garbage.
Modern Dems aren't far left. They aren't even left of center when you compare them to political parties in Europe. There are a handful of exceptions, but they aren't getting new legislation past any time soon.

Yeah, that was kind of the point of about 3 pages of argument, some of it moderated away.

That's the "strong minority opinion" that the Democrats are far-left I was referring to. Personally I agree with the far-right and center-right description, but there are certainly people here who don't.
They're wrong by any objective standard, but they still hold their opinion.

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