I think you can't add it since you're not a high enough caster level.
Creating a magic weapon has a special prerequisite: The creator's caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability, the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.
And the caster level of special ability is CL10, which is higher than the 6 from enhancement.
but maybe it's something you can just +5 DC to ignore.
I think you can't add it since you're not a high enough caster level.
Creating a magic weapon has a special prerequisite: The creator's caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability, the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.
And the caster level of special ability is CL10, which is higher than the 6 from enhancement.but maybe it's something you can just +5 DC to ignore.
He can make it, but it will be an additional +5 to the DC.
Yup, +5 to DC is pretty much it here.
Not according to the "rules", but if that's what he's saying you have to do then that's how it works. If it's PFS then he's wrong. But if it's a home game and that is his decision then it's the rule.
But it would be a houserule. the 3x bonus is only for the flat number, not level equivalent cost. The only requirement would be a high enough level to cast Keen Blade, and that's only to not raise the DC by 5.
remmeber you can take 10 on carfting rolls for magic items, that mean that a wizard with a few ranks in spellcraft can really make very high dc items really easy.
as they mantioned above the caster level in the items information is for the dc to make. if it is in the requirment part it is a thing you ether complay with or add +5 to the dc.
do notice that while player are prompt to take advantege of crafting feats (since they paid for them in faets they could have spent ofr other sutff) gm are notorius for rolling the 1-5% chance that your crafted item is cursed.
do notice that while player are prompt to take advantege of crafting feats (since they paid for them in faets they could have spent ofr other sutff) gm are notorius for rolling the 1-5% chance that your crafted item is cursed.
Pathfinder there is only a chance for a cursed item if you fail the check by more than 5.
First off, the CL 10 of the keen property is in the heading section of the property, not the requirements section. This just means that the typical caster level for a keen sword is 10, not that you have to be caster level to to make it (see the dispelling property for an example of a weapon property that does have a caster level requirement).
To craft a +3 sword the caster level requirement is indeed 9, which can be bypassed by a +5 DC increase to the crafting check.
However, you are not trying to craft a +3 sword, you are trying to craft a +2 Keen sword, which would have a caster level requirement of 6 for the +2 part and NO caster level requirement for the keen part, giving the entire sword a caster level requirement of 6.
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Dave is mostly right:
The weapon is +3 for the cost only, for all other purposes it is a +2 keen weapon.
The +2 part has a special prerequisite: your CL must be 3* the enhancement bonus of the weapon, so you need a CL of 6.
The keen part has a caster level of 10.
The description of the property is:
Keen: This ability doubles the threat range of a weapon. Only piercing or slashing melee weapons can be keen. If you roll this property randomly for an inappropriate weapon, reroll. This benefit doesn't stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon (such as the keen edge spell or the Improved Critical feat).
Moderate transmutation; CL 10th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, keen edge; Price +1 bonus.
I think that the CL 10 in that row isn't a requirement and so if you miss it you aren't required to add +5 to the crafting DC, but it set a specific CL value for the item, so you must use that CL DC for crafting it.
So, if you know the keen edge spell, you get:
+2 bonus, CL6, DC 11 to craft
Keen CL 10, DC 15 to craft (no +5 for missing a prerequisite)
The second DC is the higher one and you use it: DC 15 to craft the sword.
There are a few Dev post that say that, with the exception of potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items you can make items with a CL higher than your. Simply, if it affect how the item work, you have to pay for the higher Cl
+3 for cost and actual +2 keen for crafting, so no additional DC.
Okay, here we go.
Caster is 7th level, has the Keen Edge spell, and is looking to make a +2 sword into a +2 keen sword.
Cost has been thoroughly covered, but as EvilMinion points out, the higher CL between the enhancement bonus (6) and keen (10) needs to be met. So, 10.
Except for spell trigger, spell completion and potions (that's wands, staves, scrolls and potions/oils), and the item creation feat itself, any and all prerequisites can be bypassed with a +5 DC.
Your DC is:
5
+10 (CL)
+5 (not meeting CL requirement)
=20.
If you have max ranks in Spellcraft (7) as a class skill (+3), you can take 10 on the spellcraft check and make a CL 10 +2 keen sword without any Intelligence bonus or roll of the die.
oups. I just looked up keen weapon just to make sure. The CL 10 is indeed not a crafting requirement, so it doesn't need to be met.
And as mentioned, you are missing a key phrase on the crafting of weapons.
The caster level of the Keen property DOES have to be met as it is a requirement.See posts above.
The only thing listed under the requirements for keen are the item creation feat and the spell keen edge. You do not have to meet the listed caster level; it is not a requirement.
Referencing the above rule:
Creating a magic weapon has a special prerequisite: The creator's caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability, the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.
Keen has a caster level (like all magic items) but not a caster level requirement. Thus, the bolded text does not apply.
This stuff is really simple: Is it listed before or after the magic item description? If it's before, it's not a requirement. If it's afterward, it's a requirement.
Happy gaming!