Fromper |
I cannot think of an argument for this thread for either side that was not already been run into the ground. A year ago.
-j
Yeah. I read the first couple of posts before realizing it was an old thread, then skipped to the end to see why it was revived. I still have no idea.
I would post my own examples of seemingly "silly" builds that are actually viable, so people shouldn't be judging an oddball PC design so harshly, but it just doesn't seem worthwhile to continue this conversation.
I will say that I actually just played with a "spellcaster" who didn't have a high enough casting stat to actually cast spells just 3 days ago, though. He was the heavy hitter of the group.
Shea Hoarfoot |
Shea Hoarfoot wrote:Lets look at this in reverse... 5 level 1 players show up to a tier 1-5 game... then a 6th player shows up with a level 5 barbarian maxed out... they will be playing tier 1-2 and nobody will get to do anything as he starts every encounter with "i rage and charge" ... in all likelyhood nobody will die but... nobody will have fun watching the barbarian kill everything...
Even worse scenario there are only 3 all brand new 1st level in a 1-7 and the 4th player is the level 7 barbarian now they are playing tier 3-4 and it is likely one or more of the level ones would die.
LOL! Try Library of the Lion with the first example...
but seriously, this is a Player issue. IMHO - The high level guy should switch off to a different PC - even if he has to play an Iconic. Though I have seen someone play your examples where he made it a lot of fun for the other players. A high level Ranger in a game with 4 low levels, and the player played it up as he was a "teacher/nurse-maid" trying to "get the green-horns thru this alive". In one encounter he stood and spent his actions handing the 1st level Ranger blunt arrows (he had them, but the "newbie" hadn't bought them, and they had encountered Skeletons...). "Yeah kid, now wait till after Kera channels and see if she drops them all. If not, go for the damaged ones first...". In another encounter he walked around to give the Rogue a flank, all the while "coaching the kids"...
Just played LotL... funny thing was my character has this elaborate back story about being raised by Goblin Opera singers (really a thieves guild) in Oppera... so... the GM gave me a Knowledge Local check to Know the Door Guard... was funny start to the game...
nosig |
nosig wrote:Just played LotL... funny thing was my character has this elaborate back story about being raised by Goblin Opera singers (really a thieves guild) in Oppera... so... the GM gave me a Knowledge Local check to Know the Door Guard... was funny start to the game...Shea Hoarfoot wrote:Lets look at this in reverse... 5 level 1 players show up to a tier 1-5 game... then a 6th player shows up with a level 5 barbarian maxed out... they will be playing tier 1-2 and nobody will get to do anything as he starts every encounter with "i rage and charge" ... in all likelyhood nobody will die but... nobody will have fun watching the barbarian kill everything...
Even worse scenario there are only 3 all brand new 1st level in a 1-7 and the 4th player is the level 7 barbarian now they are playing tier 3-4 and it is likely one or more of the level ones would die.
LOL! Try Library of the Lion with the first example...
but seriously, this is a Player issue. IMHO - The high level guy should switch off to a different PC - even if he has to play an Iconic. Though I have seen someone play your examples where he made it a lot of fun for the other players. A high level Ranger in a game with 4 low levels, and the player played it up as he was a "teacher/nurse-maid" trying to "get the green-horns thru this alive". In one encounter he stood and spent his actions handing the 1st level Ranger blunt arrows (he had them, but the "newbie" hadn't bought them, and they had encountered Skeletons...). "Yeah kid, now wait till after Kera channels and see if she drops them all. If not, go for the damaged ones first...". In another encounter he walked around to give the Rogue a flank, all the while "coaching the kids"...
Yeah, it's a great game IMHO,
I think I played it with a level 2, at Tier 4-5, and tried not to dominate the table... I was the skill monkey, amongst a bunch of "normal" Pathfinders.