Arcanist summoner viable?


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Hello,

I want to play a summoner and found the arcanist archetyp occultist.

Using the standard feats like augment and superior summoning would it be as usefull as a master summoner or a Druid focused on summoning?

Another question:

Summon good Monster or summon neutral monster?
Which feat offers the better monsters?


You're using the Occultist archetype, right? If so then yes.

I'd generally say Summon Neutral Monster gets more useful SLA's, but the Diehard feat makes Summon Good Monster into more useful roadblocks. Which is better depends on what you're using them for.


How should a 25 point by look like? Is Charisma neccessary or can I dump it?

I think I will play human.

We are at the Moment at level 5, so my feats will be spell focus, augment summoning and superior summoning. 5th level feat will be summon good\neutral Monster.

Is evolved summoning worth it?


If your dm allows it,evolved summoning is incredibly good. The skill focus evolution alone can be brokenly powerful. Imagine getting to choose +8 to any skill when summoning.

I'd say occultist isn't as strong as master summoner, but that is a badly balanced archetype. Occultist may be more useful though since it gets 9th level spell casting and isn't limited to just buffing and summoning.


The Arcanist Occultist archetype obsoletes the Conjurer Wizard summoner. It has 9 levels of casting and standard-action summons (that's unbelievably huge!). Unless you're playing the Conjurer Wizard for the non-summon spells, then I'd go with the Arcanist Occultist without further thought. Frankly otherwise, I would have little use for the Arcanist as a class in comparison with the wizard.

Since the devs have unofficially ruled (through con panel) the Summoner and related archetypes "broken" in anticipation of the Pathfinder Unchained rework, I'd say that the Arcanist Occultist is currently the strongest summoning class in pathfinder today.


Thanks for your advice.

The occultist is the best summoner besides the broken summoner, right.

So I will give it a try.

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