Kazumetsa Raijin |
"Parent Classes: Each one of the following classes lists two
classes that it draws upon to form the basis of its theme.
While a character can multiclass with these parent classes,
this usually results in redundant abilities. Such abilities
don’t stack unless specified. If a class feature allows the
character to make a one-time choice (such as a bloodline),
that choice must match similar choices made by the parent
classes and vice-versa (such as selecting the same bloodline)."
"Bloodrager: Fusing the frenzy of the barbarian with the
bloodline might of the sorcerer, the bloodrager calls upon
innate power to give himself extraordinary abilities."
You would not have 2 different Rages, as the Barbarian is a Parent Class for the Bloodrager. You pick one of the Rages to keep, and that's all you have. They have to fall in line with one another, according to the Parent Class clause.
Seranov |
"Parent Classes: Each one of the following classes lists two
classes that it draws upon to form the basis of its theme.
While a character can multiclass with these parent classes,
this usually results in redundant abilities. Such abilities
don’t stack unless specified. If a class feature allows the
character to make a one-time choice (such as a bloodline),
that choice must match similar choices made by the parent
classes and vice-versa (such as selecting the same bloodline).""Bloodrager: Fusing the frenzy of the barbarian with the
bloodline might of the sorcerer, the bloodrager calls upon
innate power to give himself extraordinary abilities."You would not have 2 different Rages, as the Barbarian is a Parent Class for the Bloodrager. You pick one of the Rages to keep, and that's all you have. They have to fall in line with one another, according to the Parent Class clause.
This in incorrect. You would absolutely have both rages, but they would not stack at all. You can only use one of them at a time, and they have completely separate rounds/day pools.
The parent class clause only refers to one-time choices (such as a Bloodrager/Sorcerer needing to have the same bloodline for both classes, or a neutral Cleric/Warpriest Channeling positive or negative energy.) It does not prevent you from gaining class abilities through multiclassing.
Seranov |
They're not abilities with the same name, though. They are two separate class abilities that function similarly, but are very distinctly not the same.
The parent class clause can be safely ignored in 90% of characters, because it is only referring to very specific choices that are made by those classes, such as the ones I mentioned. It will not EVER prevent you from gaining a class feature, even if that class feature does not stack.
A Bloodrager/Barbarian absolutely gains the ability to use either his Bloodrage and normal Rage (though not at the same time), because neither of those abilities require you to make a specific choice that cannot be changed when you receive them.
Weirdo |
If you multiclass cleric and wizard, you get two independent spell lists, with two independent caster levels and sets of spell slots.
If you multiclass wizard and sorcerer, with the same spell list, you still have two caster levels sets of spell slots.
If you have an animal companion as a druid and a cavalier's mount, you can select a non-mount companion in which case you have a separate mount and track your level for each separately.
That's what an ability that doesn't stack looks like.
Given that nothing says the rage and bloodrage abilities stack, if a barbarian/bloodrager has a rage and a bloodrage ability, which are tracked separately in terms of rounds per day and effects of rage/bloodrage. This applies even if it's a normal barbarian and not an urban barbarian.
Game Master |
You can activate both rages.
They do not stack.
If one rage gives +4 Dexterity, and the other gives +4 Str and +4 Con, they both apply, giving +4 Str, +4 Dex, and +4 Con.
If you need an example, look up the FAQs regarding multiple Evil Eye hexes applying to different penalties, and multiple Bestow Curse spells applying to different penalties.
You do not get the +2 Will save bonus twice.